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15 hours ago, KeirStarmerFan said:

Chris Harris and Scott Nicholls never turned their back on British Speedway.

The modern era of riders only care about money.

 

Scotty tried it for half a season and it didn't work for him.

I'll disagree with you it's not turning their back on UK speedway it's about being a professional who wants to progress as far as possible in his chosen career. 

You wouldn't stay with the same company who year after year struggled to keep their head above water if you could enhance your career with a more forward thinking and financially stronger company.

It not Bewley, Lambert's or Tai's fault that UK speedway has a trash operation that attracts zero investment from outside.

Three very talented and professional riders who deserve to succeed and earn a few quid on the way.

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14 hours ago, Hackett said:

Think you'll find all riders rode abroad back in the day - but the main difference being British speedway was comparable money wise to Europe and if not the number of meetings made it worthwhile back then - Now unfortunately British speedway is third or fourth in payment terms so as we know Poland now means increased monies, sponsorship and opportunity, Sweden  paying more per point why would you ride in the UK. 

 

 

They may offer more money per point etc in Sweden! - Lets hope the riders all get paid the rate that their contract states.

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1 hour ago, mikebv said:

A perfect move for Dan at this stage of his career..

Too many GB lads didnt make that risky jump into a more pressured environment and stagnated, when they could have maybe progressed up the Speedway ladder...

The vast majority of races he is in now will have at least one top level rider up at the tapes with him which can only help improve his own performance...

Missing the start and passing sometimes all three others in Sweden and Poland wont be as easy as he seems to find it in the UK so his gating will need to be consistently sharp which can only help him at World Individual and Team level...

Hopefully he will appear in some individual events over here like the Peter Craven Memorial as he one rider that definitely is "worth the admission" to watch....

A big couple of years for Dan coming up I would think, let's hope it goes well for him as having a couple of successful young lads like Bewley and Lambert at World Class level can only help get the sport in the UK more publicity off the back of it..

 

Agree with what you say but the world cup win certainly went under the radar, nothing in the majority of news/media outlets. I always thought Woffinden could have used his position as world champion more to have promoted the sport over here, hes one rider who has the personality and would have been seen as cool by the younger generations, Doyle has shown far more loyalty to to UK speedway than our own riders and was only really forced out by the unfortunate situation at Swindon.

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16 minutes ago, cowboy cookie returns? said:

Scotty tried it for half a season and it didn't work for him.

I'll disagree with you it's not turning their back on UK speedway it's about being a professional who wants to progress as far as possible in his chosen career. 

You wouldn't stay with the same company who year after year struggled to keep their head above water if you could enhance your career with a more forward thinking and financially stronger company.

It not Bewley, Lambert's or Tai's fault that UK speedway has a trash operation that attracts zero investment from outside.

Three very talented and professional riders who deserve to succeed and earn a few quid on the way.

Very true but it never stopped Doyle showing his loyalty to the UK, riding here as world champion.

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Aren't you all being a bit previous? Or have Poland announced that their 2 team rule will also apply for next season?

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4 hours ago, bellevueace said:

Agree with what you say but the world cup win certainly went under the radar, nothing in the majority of news/media outlets. I always thought Woffinden could have used his position as world champion more to have promoted the sport over here, hes one rider who has the personality and would have been seen as cool by the younger generations, Doyle has shown far more loyalty to to UK speedway than our own riders and was only really forced out by the unfortunate situation at Swindon.

I think it will need a period of sustained success to make the wider sporting media and sports' watching public to start to follow more closely.. 

Similar as to how the Sport was covered in the 70's due to consistent success, (and then got almost dropped like a stone when the Yanks and Danes took over)..

And also similar to the way Carl Fogarty built up a WSB following over through several years of successive title wins..

With BSB getting more coverage and interest too, off the back of what he achieved at World Level..

Woffy, Lambert, Bewley and Ellis would be a fair team, as it currently stands, for the 2023 WTC, and as we have seen this year, next years team for the SON, whoever is picked, would be in with a decent chance of retaining the trophy..

Going head to head, every night you ride, against the top level, can only help...

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5 hours ago, bellevueace said:

Very true but it never stopped Doyle showing his loyalty to the UK, riding here as world champion.

Do you think he would have done that if he didn't have a British wife and live over here? 

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5 hours ago, Pirates Of Poole said:

Has Dan actually confirmed this? As maybe their is a clause in his Polish contract to allow him to ride in 3 leagues?

Polish contract 

33) compliance with the limits on starts in league meetings: a) only 2 national leagues for DMP(Extraleague) rider, including Polish league b) only 3 national leagues for DM I and II Leagues, including Polish league

https://www.pzm.pl/pliki/zg/zuzel/2022/Regulaminy/04b_set_of_rules_governing_relations_between_the_rider_and_the_club_-_2022_2021.10.31.pdf

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19 hours ago, HenryW said:

Much easier to race Poland and Sweden with one set of equipment and team of mechanics than it is to do Poland and UK.

Would have thought he would have equipment in both countries.Maybe mechanics too,it's still a fair way to travel from Wroclaw to Smederna for meetings.15 hrs nonstop by road and ferry.Easier to fly i would have thought and have equipment in both countries.

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4 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Would have thought he would have equipment in both countries.Maybe mechanics too,it's still a fair way to travel from Wroclaw to Smederna for meetings.15 hrs nonstop by road and ferry.Easier to fly i would have thought and have equipment in both countries.

Most international riders do Poland on a Sunday then take a leisurely drive up to Northern Poland catch the ferry Monday to arrive Tuesday morning then get back to port to sail back to Poland Tuesday night. 
 

The mechanics actually like this as they all get together on the overnight ferries and have a few beers and chill out . The riders depending on other commitments may fly from Poland to Sweden on a Tuesday morning. If the rider is in the Friday match on a non GP weekend they often travel out to Sweden earlier and have a few days down time both Magic and Robert Lambert did this regularly 

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7 minutes ago, flagrag said:

Most international riders do Poland on a Sunday then take a leisurely drive up to Northern Poland catch the ferry Monday to arrive Tuesday morning then get back to port to sail back to Poland Tuesday night. 
 

The mechanics actually like this as they all get together on the overnight ferries and have a few beers and chill out . The riders depending on other commitments may fly from Poland to Sweden on a Tuesday morning. If the rider is in the Friday match on a non GP weekend they often travel out to Sweden earlier and have a few days down time both Magic and Robert Lambert did this regularly 

Blimey,long way to travel every week.Thought it would be easier on the body and mind just to fly rather than travel by road and ferry.

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14 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Do you think he would have done that if he didn't have a British wife and live over here? 

Woffy has a British wife, It's all about money, and who can blame them. If I could of got 6x more by doing the same job in Poland, it would of been bye bye Britain.

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21 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Do you think he would have done that if he didn't have a British wife and live over here? 

Theres no reason to assume he wouldnt have, perhaps he wouldnt but who knows for sure, if he didnt he wouldnt have been turning his back on his country though when he was in a position to promote it.

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22 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Do you think he would have done that if he didn't have a British wife and live over here? 

Probably would have as it’s very easy Pocket Money to pick up over here compared to Sweden where the opposition was quite tough.Also like he said he likes to keep busy on the bike.

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