szkocjasid 2,846 Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 10:15 PM, szkocjasid said: Potential 2022 team if 2021 team building rules remain in place: Belle Vue Max Fricke 8.81 Kyle Howarth 6.03 Steve Worrall 5.94 Charles Wright 5.92 Richie Worrall 5.37 Jordan Palin 3.00 Tom Brennan 4* Total 35.07 8 hours ago, Bruiser said: You wouldn’t pay much to watch that team in the top flight, but sadly I doubt they could get much stronger 3 hours ago, NSS1 said: they will be stonger for sure Unless the points limit is raised, can't see how they can be stronger! Until 2022 rules are announced can only make predictions based on 2021 rules! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 2,846 Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: Would something like this fit. I'm not sure myself. But maybe go the way Peterborough did Bjerre Wright Cook Tungate Kurtz Richie Brennan Probably to high. Belle Vue Kenneth Bjerre 7.75 Brady Kurtz 7.35 Craig Cook 6.81 Rohan Tungate 6.59 Charles Wright 5.92 Richie Worrall 5.37 Tom Brennan 4* Total 39.79 Only 4.29 above current points limit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,847 Posted November 8, 2021 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Belle Vue Kenneth Bjerre 7.75 Brady Kurtz 7.35 Craig Cook 6.81 Rohan Tungate 6.59 Charles Wright 5.92 Richie Worrall 5.37 Tom Brennan 4* Total 39.79 Only 4.29 above current points limit! The points limit will go up. Maybe not that much though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 2,846 Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: The points limit will go up. Maybe not that much though I certainly hope the points limit will be raised! Needs to be a bigger gap between the top 2 divisions imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBP 64 Posted November 8, 2021 Can anyone explain why there is a pay difference between the championship and premiership when apart from around 5 riders both leagues use the same riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,163 Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DBP said: Can anyone explain why there is a pay difference between the championship and premiership when apart from around 5 riders both leagues use the same riders Presume its to do with having a lower grade of second strings and reserves in the 2nd tier so 'easier' races to make your money....? If indeed they do get less? A third level HL in the top tier could be a No1 in the second division so maybe not too much difference at all between points money and deals..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortythirtyeight 835 Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DBP said: Can anyone explain why there is a pay difference between the championship and premiership when apart from around 5 riders both leagues use the same riders It’s simple. The championship pay rates are basically historical and they , mostly, pay what they can afford based on gate receipts , sponsorship etc. The ‘ Premiership ‘ has historically taken the majority of the TV money ( a big sum during Sky times ) to run the club and then had more cash available to pay the bigger wages to attract international classs stars to appear on TV , attract more sponsors and so it goes round in circles, more coverage , bigger crowds ,more money. Now the two leagues are virtually the same but with no TV money to speak of but the ‘ Premiership ‘ still pay the higher wages to attract a rider from the championship but who will probably score less points in this division ( in theory ). Obviusly this hasn’t worked in 2021 when several championship riders have a higher average in the Premiership. Edited November 8, 2021 by Fortythirtyeight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted November 8, 2021 MPT number 1 in premiership,, number 4 in championship. The top 3 or 4 riders are basically the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARK246 243 Posted November 8, 2021 6 hours ago, DBP said: Can anyone explain why there is a pay difference between the championship and premiership when apart from around 5 riders both leagues use the same riders Promoters egos ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,238 Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:14 AM, DBP said: Can anyone explain why there is a pay difference between the championship and premiership when apart from around 5 riders both leagues use the same riders The higher level riders score more points in the Championship than the Premiership - look at the averages to see that. So overall costs would be too high if they paid the same in Championship for the seven riders as a whole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted November 11, 2021 1. Max Fricke 2. Troy Batchelor 3. Steve Worrall 4. Charles Wright 5. Brady Kurtz 6. ?.?? 7. Tom Brennan (RS) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted November 11, 2021 Isn't Tom too good to be a RS now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,617 Posted November 11, 2021 Honest question - is it confirmed that Fricke is returning to UK/Belle Vue racing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosty 496 Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:14 AM, DBP said: Can anyone explain why there is a pay difference between the championship and premiership when apart from around 5 riders both leagues use the same riders Easiest money earnt in Speedway are the "hired for the night" riders mechanic/ fuel & Oil guys, I'm told they get £100 - £150 per night not a bad bit of pocket money in these hard times! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,847 Posted November 11, 2021 49 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Honest question - is it confirmed that Fricke is returning to UK/Belle Vue racing? Not confirmed no, he's holding talks, so that's a start 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites