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5 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

What do you personally think he's asked for regarding the council's full support?

 

To give the landlord a slap around the head with their stupid demands. 

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3 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

What do you personally think he's asked for regarding the council's full support?

 

Stadia UK have an agreement with the council that is due to last another 17 years, based on them running 2 sports out the stadium which they no longer do. The are pushing for a very large increase in rent with no extra service supply. Bottom line, the council own the stadium and it is sub contracted to stadia UK, if they are being un-reasonable the club are well in their right to take this up with the land owner and get their support! 

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part owns i believe,dont forget properties like that are only a fraction of the cost they would be in uk 

(response to baldys post)

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11 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

What do you personally think he's asked for regarding the council's full support?

 

They own the site, so must carry some weight 

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4 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

What do you personally think he's asked for regarding the council's full support?

 

The Forum has supplied plenty of comment/rumour on this subject going back to earlier this year.

We had that the leaseholder wanted to double the rent for 2022. Maybe true - Maybe not

We had that they preferred to keep it as one massive parking lot as they made more from car parking than they did from speedway.

We had the fact that the long term leaseholder (and also Greyhound Racing operator), stopped the Greyhound racing and wanted to see it stay closed and then redeveloped for Housing & Commercial development giving a much bigger return. Saw similar comments that the Council would prefer similar but there was all this talk that a local ruling said it had to be kept partly for Speedway/Sport and with all the plans put forward no way could you have both with the layout. That would in effect or kill speedway there.

So there have been plenty of rumours on what the lease holder and or council actually want. Whatever it is maybe true or false, lets hope the Fords can et Poole Speedway some kind of future even if only short term.

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15 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said:

Ford is asking for help, but owns this.Chateau_christmasweb_1_w1250_ratio_crop.jpg.Is that right ?????

Not asking for financial help 

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6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said:

The Forum has supplied plenty of comment/rumour on this subject going back to earlier this year.

We had that the leaseholder wanted to double the rent for 2022. Maybe true - Maybe not

We had that they preferred to keep it as one massive parking lot as they made more from car parking than they did from speedway.

We had the fact that the long term leaseholder (and also Greyhound Racing operator), stopped the Greyhound racing and wanted to see it stay closed and then redeveloped for Housing & Commercial development giving a much bigger return. Saw similar comments that the Council would prefer similar but there was all this talk that a local ruling said it had to be kept partly for Speedway/Sport and with all the plans put forward no way could you have both with the layout. That would in effect or kill speedway there.

So there have been plenty of rumours on what the lease holder and or council actually want. Whatever it is maybe true or false, lets hope the Fords can et Poole Speedway some kind of future even if only short term.

I,m sure all speedway fans are hoping Poole can run in 2022 but surely their must be some sort of deadline to declare and name their team. 

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2 minutes ago, daz9100 said:

To give the landlord a slap around the head with their stupid demands. 

For the record I wouldn't want to see Poole falling by the way side.

The council wouldn't be able to do anything though because it's the landlord's property at the end of the day and unfortunately they don't care about our Sport.

 

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7 minutes ago, lewy said:

I,m sure all speedway fans are hoping Poole can run in 2022 but surely their must be some sort of deadline to declare and name their team. 

Think all decent speedway fans agree on that score.

We will just have to  be patient I suppose as Xmas close down for many will probably drag this into next year.

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5 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said:

Stadia UK have an agreement with the council that is due to last another 17 years, based on them running 2 sports out the stadium which they no longer do. The are pushing for a very large increase in rent with no extra service supply. Bottom line, the council own the stadium and it is sub contracted to stadia UK, if they are being un-reasonable the club are well in their right to take this up with the land owner and get their support! 

commercial leases can be very complex so who knows,as the speedway is the third level in the "chain"behind the freeholder and the leaseholder they would almost certainly have very very minimal legal rights,i dont know if speedways solicitors have any specialists in this field but rest assured stadiauk will have,being a sponsor  isnt going to help (except perhaps with a discount lol) 

it might as simple as stadiauk wanted more than the(apparently) normal 3% increase so asked for 100% but will settle for say 40%.they would then consider a 13 fold increase on the normal annual rise  a succesfull negotiation 

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5 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

For the record I wouldn't want to see Poole falling by the way side.

The council wouldn't be able to do anything though because it's the landlord's property at the end of the day and unfortunately they don't care about our Sport.

 

Don't be thick. The council own the land the stadium is on not Stadia UK, speedway would have been out years ago if they owned it imo. 

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6 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

For the record I wouldn't want to see Poole falling by the way side.

The council wouldn't be able to do anything though because it's the landlord's property at the end of the day and unfortunately they don't care about our Sport.

 

The commercial/residential plans/pictures  posted on the forum earlier this year did look impressive for sure and showed how the area could look more in line with the 21st century.

There was no way you could have seen a speedway stadium looking in place in such a facility. Let's hope at least for the forseeable future they remain exactly that - Just plans/drawings ;)

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50 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said:

Exactly what I said but it went down the wrong way with Poole fans.

Cos you are talking BS. Try sticking to facts, thanks! :t:

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6 minutes ago, poole keith said:

commercial leases can be very complex so who knows,as the speedway is the third level in the "chain"behind the freeholder and the leaseholder they would almost certainly have very very minimal legal rights,i dont know if speedways solicitors have any specialists in this field but rest assured stadiauk will have,being a sponsor  isnt going to help (except perhaps with a discount lol) 

it might as simple as stadiauk wanted more than the(apparently) normal 3% increase so asked for 100% but will settle for say 40%.they would then consider a 13 fold increase on the normal annual rise  a succesfull negotiation 

Your last comment may well be nearer the truth.

Problem is that a sport in decline with lower crowds and income than back in the SKY Sport days, with lower commercial/sponsor income doesn't help the club. Also with the disaster of the previous main sponsor in 2018/2019 (cant remember which year) going bust owing the Club plenty, has not exactly helped bolster finances.

Lat's all just hope a resolution can be found that works for all parties. 

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