Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Years ago riders could share a team berth, rule may have been dropped - but hasn't been announced! It's the same with doubling up, used to be 2 riders sharing a spot, then one rider only needed, but never announced 2 riders COULDN'T still share the team spot. I'm sure both Mulford & Ablitt would prefer a full season of Champ racing, but if no one else came in for them, may settle for half the matches? Im guessing had the RS system remained it could have worked but with rider averages it would complicate things. If you start with rider A & rider B both on 3.00 averages (for a start i don't know if both can be declared in a 1-7) anyway rider A ups average to 4.00, Rider B remains 3.00. That would mean B could cover for A but A couldn't cover for B (depending on who was in the declared 1-7). It would also open up a whole can of worms with tracks signing specialists for example Plymouth may sign a riders for the home meetings who is great on small tracks and then want another for bigger away meetings, good exposure for both riders but creates a lack of cohesion in the team and potentially pushing the shortage of reserve riders even further. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,956 Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Another signing bring announced 7am tomorrow on twitter they did a gif of dumb and dumber with 'g'day mate' So def Batch Makes perfect sense with such a relatively short distance from Swindon for his fan club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,017 Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Im guessing had the RS system remained it could have worked but with rider averages it would complicate things. If you start with rider A & rider B both on 3.00 averages (for a start i don't know if both can be declared in a 1-7) anyway rider A ups average to 4.00, Rider B remains 3.00. That would mean B could cover for A but A couldn't cover for B (depending on who was in the declared 1-7). It would also open up a whole can of worms with tracks signing specialists for example Plymouth may sign a riders for the home meetings who is great on small tracks and then want another for bigger away meetings, good exposure for both riders but creates a lack of cohesion in the team and potentially pushing the shortage of reserve riders even further. 1) is there a shortage of reserve riders currently, I wasn't aware of this? 2) regardless no rider would choose to share a spot with one team if another offered them a full time berth! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted November 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: 1) is there a shortage of reserve riders currently, I wasn't aware of this? 2) regardless no rider would choose to share a spot with one team if another offered them a full time berth! Apologies a shortage of reserve grade riders ready to move up (hence the predictable scrapping of the RS) at CL level. One the outside that makes perfect sense but we both know that this good sport is often spoilt by excesses of money. If the riders were offered better deals than they would receive elsewhere for half the number of meetings it would easily be a consideration for some. Im not saying the shared berth system is a bad idea (far from it) but as with all introductions it needs to be considered for the short, middle and long term rather than just implemented on a suck it and see basis (as per the current BSPL motto) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,017 Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: Apologies a shortage of reserve grade riders ready to move up (hence the predictable scrapping of the RS) at CL level. One the outside that makes perfect sense but we both know that this good sport is often spoilt by excesses of money. If the riders were offered better deals than they would receive elsewhere for half the number of meetings it would easily be a consideration for some. I'm not saying the shared berth system is a bad idea (far from it) but as with all introductions it needs to be considered for the short, middle and long term rather than just implemented on a suck it and see basis (as per the current BSPL motto) The RS could only have remained in the Champ if the gradings were changed, as most of last year's 1/2/3* riders are now 4* riders! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted November 25, 2021 19 hours ago, hagonshocker said: Makes perfect sense with such a relatively short distance from Swindon for his fan club Yep and so it proved to be! Batch signing no2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,087 Posted November 25, 2021 Phew, that is one rider I definitely wouldn't want to ride for Poole. Good rider but has a habit of letting you down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Jones 2,125 Posted November 25, 2021 21 hours ago, hagonshocker said: Makes perfect sense with such a relatively short distance from Swindon for his fan club Well now that he is confirmed his fan club members can start thinking about their trips to Sandy Lane. Perhaps they could arrange to travel together in one car & save on fuel costs. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim G 512 Posted November 25, 2021 Good top two, happy with that to start with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,133 Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 2:50 PM, Tim G said: Good top two, happy with that to start with. Nicholls is a great role model to lead the club....wish I didnt live so far from Oxford coz I'd definitely back them if B'ham don't return! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lenny Lion 138 Posted December 2, 2021 Looks like it’s going to be the core Kent 2021 team . Cameron Heeps announced according the BSPA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted December 2, 2021 So is it to be the Oxford/Kent King Cheetahs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So is it to be the Oxford/Kent King Cheetahs? Nice ring to that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teromaafan 586 Posted December 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: Nice ring to that. Not to be confused with riders moving at the start........called ***king cheaters! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,017 Posted December 2, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 11:27 AM, Sings4Speedway said: I'm guessing had the RS system remained it could have worked but with rider averages it would complicate things. If you start with rider A & rider B both on 3.00 averages (for a start i don't know if both can be declared in a 1-7) anyway rider A ups average to 4.00, Rider B remains 3.00. That would mean B could cover for A but A couldn't cover for B (depending on who was in the declared 1-7). It would also open up a whole can of worms with tracks signing specialists for example Plymouth may sign a riders for the home meetings who is great on small tracks and then want another for bigger away meetings, good exposure for both riders but creates a lack of cohesion in the team and potentially pushing the shortage of reserve riders even further. Mind you, the RS system was no better, 3* riders like Flint / Kemp / Bowtell allowed to guest for 1* riders who score nothing like Crang / Freeman! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites