Deano 1,318 Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Grand Central said: Did they pay someone to write this hogwash ? No AGM.... both teams have until the AGM to declare. Idiots. smells of a cut and paste attitude from a previous release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,947 Posted November 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Company/Association AGMs are neither traditional or untraditional. They are just AGMs. With specific functions to be carried out. Other General meetings are possible. They are NOT AGMs. An AGM used to legally be required for a limited company (although I believe the BSPA was not a limited company until quite recently), but is no longer required for private limited companies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattB 177 Posted November 11, 2021 2 hours ago, falcace said: It is very amateurish...let's stop any pretence it is a professional sport in Britain and cut the cloth accordingly. Its British Speedway. It doesn't do professional. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,261 Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, iainb said: I read that and thought the same, but to be fair it did say "traditional" AGM Maybe it is factually correct... Maybe this year they will be doing an "untraditional" one? One where they come up with proper plans to move the sport forward? Edited November 11, 2021 by mikebv 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marko 956 Posted November 11, 2021 NURSE, NURSE, the loonies have escaped and are trying to ruin speedway again 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,633 Posted November 11, 2021 The 'traditional' AGM has always been 2-3 days. This year its only to be a 'one-day' rubber-stamping exercise of what has been already agreed over the Zoom meetings and to give Brummies more time. Most company AGM's have a very strict agenda and are usually over and done with in a couple of hours at most! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,394 Posted November 11, 2021 would have been good to lower the 2nd div averages more and limit DU/DD with a view to seriously limiting it further in future but its another same old same old and you know what Einstein said. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,358 Posted November 11, 2021 4 hours ago, MattB said: BOTH professional leagues can confirm agreement has been reached on team building regulations for the 2022 season – and Oxford Cheetahs are back! Promoters have held a general meeting to discuss regulations and the Premiership will build to 39 points for six riders plus a rider from the Rising Star scheme. The Championship will build to 42-points for seven riders. These decisions are official with the traditional AGM no longer in place. Discussions on all aspects of the sport have proved to be extremely productive as clubs look to build on an entertaining but challenging 2021. It can also be confirmed that Oxford will return to the sport at their traditional Cowley Stadium home and will enter the Championship. The door has remained open for both Kent and Birmingham to also enter the Championship if new promoters can be found to take on the clubs and they have until the AGM to do this. The National Development League will stage an AGM soon with more clubs looking to enter than in recent seasons. Rob Godfrey, Chairman of British Speedway Promoters Ltd said: "The members of both the Premiership and Championship have held in-depth discussions over the past few weeks and months. "Riders are starting to be announced by clubs because there is an agreement in place in both leagues regarding team building rules. "We are delighted to welcome Oxford back into the sport at the same time as continuing to support Eastbourne in their hope for a return in 2023. We also hope Kent and Birmingham’s issues can be resolved to bring them to the tapes for 2022. "The 2021 season, particularly towards the end with the wonderful success of the GB national team and the brilliant Grand Final showcased by our broadcast partner Eurosport to a huge audience, underlines that speedway is still very much alive and kicking in this country. Long may it continue." Everything’s fine, onwards and upwards. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted November 11, 2021 Anyone know what the decision was on conversion rates? Obviously there was the 5 year plan to increase from 1.5 to 2.0 in increments of 0.1 each season but that "stalled due to covid" (no idea what covid had to do with a conversion rate). Will the increase actually be applied or was the only thing to come out of the zoom meetings is to drop all 5 year plans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatface 2,552 Posted November 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Anyone know what the decision was on conversion rates? Obviously there was the 5 year plan to increase from 1.5 to 2.0 in increments of 0.1 each season but that "stalled due to covid" (no idea what covid had to do with a conversion rate). Will the increase actually be applied or was the only thing to come out of the zoom meetings is to drop all 5 year plans? The only plan is to make it up as they go along...which every year means cobbling together what's left. And er, that's it. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghosty 500 Posted November 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Anyone know what the decision was on conversion rates? Obviously there was the 5 year plan to increase from 1.5 to 2.0 in increments of 0.1 each season but that "stalled due to covid" (no idea what covid had to do with a conversion rate). Will the increase actually be applied or was the only thing to come out of the zoom meetings is to drop all 5 year plans? Most riders ride in both leagues so therefore have REAL averages for both leagues, so were or how does the conversion rate apply? 27 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Anyone know what the decision was on conversion rates? Obviously there was the 5 year plan to increase from 1.5 to 2.0 in increments of 0.1 each season but that "stalled due to covid" (no idea what covid had to do with a conversion rate). Will the increase actually be applied or was the only thing to come out of the zoom meetings is to drop all 5 year plans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,261 Posted November 11, 2021 58 minutes ago, Ghosty said: Most riders ride in both leagues so therefore have REAL averages for both leagues, so were or how does the conversion rate apply? It is a bit bizarre isnt it? As you say most riders have two averages so just use them in each league... Using a conversion figure could mean that riders are not as good as their actual figure that they got last year... Or maybe could mean that they are actually better than the figure that they got last year... In essence they could be better, or worse, than themselves... They just don't know it... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted November 11, 2021 6 hours ago, heathen52 said: Can someone tell me, whats the point of having a RS scheme in the Premier League but not in the Championship ?, surely the point is progression of young riders so it should follow that the RS scheme means the Championship is the natural step up for young riders then the Premiership. RS scheme only exists at PL level to keep the cost down for clubs imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spin king 1,921 Posted November 11, 2021 Disappointed to see that the Championship clubs have dumped the Rising Star programme. For me riders need to be able to progress through the league and to do this the programme has to run through all of the leagues. So it is looking like only 6 teams in the Premiership So with one Rising Star for each team these are the riders that should be the 6 Rising Star, Leon Flint Tom Brennan Jordan Palin Anders Rowe Drew Kemp Dan Thompson I would then like to see reserve list, these riders will cover Guest appearances for the above riders, retirements or riders dropped. Dan Gilkes Joe Thompson Jason Edwards Henry Atkins Jack Parkinson Blackburn Connor Bailey 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,261 Posted November 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, spin king said: Disappointed to see that the Championship clubs have dumped the Rising Star programme. For me riders need to be able to progress through the league and to do this the programme has to run through all of the leagues. So it is looking like only 6 teams in the Premiership So with one Rising Star for each team these are the riders that should be the 6 Rising Star, Leon Flint Tom Brennan Jordan Palin Anders Rowe Drew Kemp Dan Thompson I would then like to see reserve list, these riders will cover Guest appearances for the above riders, retirements or riders dropped. Dan Gilkes Joe Thompson Jason Edwards Henry Atkins Jack Parkinson Blackburn Connor Bailey It is a quick win to keep credibility to a meeting rather destroy it isnt it? No RS's guesting in the top league for each other... Use the next tier downs riders.. You could maybe even do the same for anyone who doesnt DU and only rides in the 2nd tier.. They then are the only ones allowed to guest in tier 1 for riders 2nd in the averages down.. A No1 missing means RR.. One that allows all riders to cover his rides as many times as the manager wants, but to a max of 7 rides each per meeting.. Given the No1's are no longer head and shoulders ahead of the other heat leaders now it is a perfect opportunity to dispense with guests.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
