PotteringAround 633 Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, chunky said: I can only think of five, off the top of my head.. Aub, Louis, Steve, Richard, Willie.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted December 29, 2021 Jensen - Finn, Jesper, Mikkel Bech, Michael Jepsen, Rasmus, Steen, Claes... Johansson - Tommy, Uno, Lillebror, Tobias, Stefan, Robert, Jorgen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Aub, Louis, Steve, Richard, Willie.... That's what I had! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 633 Posted December 29, 2021 Cook - John, Craig, Colin, Ben, Zach, Jon and Derek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatface 2,553 Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Could only remember Peter and Les in the final. My bad I'll forgive you Always reckon Phil and Les are a closer match than most would suggest. Sure, Les had some standout individual success, particularly in 82. But Phil was a better rider for England than Les. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted December 29, 2021 2 hours ago, chunky said: Not necessarily to the same strength, but other names that could field teams are: Jackson - Alan, Dave, Dave, John, Peter, Wayne, Rob, Gerry... Syd, Star Riders' finalist in five consecutive years, 1930-34. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted December 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, norbold said: Syd, Star Riders' finalist in five consecutive years, 1930-34. Good call... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatface 2,553 Posted December 30, 2021 Is there a team of Parkers? Asking for an anorak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, falcace said: Is there a team of Parkers? Asking for an anorak. Struggling at the moment. Have Jack, Norman, Dennis, Len, and Shane... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted December 30, 2021 17 hours ago, falcace said: I'll forgive you Always reckon Phil and Les are a closer match than most would suggest. Sure, Les had some standout individual success, particularly in 82. But Phil was a better rider for England than Les. Les on top form was truly world class (add the 80 BLRC to his 82 performances). From 83-86 Phil was the better rider though ( and Les was arguably surpassed by Neil as well from 85), with thr highlight being the overseas title win in the wet. I see your point, but to me there is no question that they rank Peter, Les, Phil, Neil, Stephen. If there's a question mark, it's whether Neil's longevity places him ahead of Phil (personally, I'd say not). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 633 Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, chunky said: Struggling at the moment. Have Jack, Norman, Dennis, Len, and Shane... There was Roger Parker who had a not very spectacular short stint with Stoke in the early 70s before being killed at a grasstrack meeting. And Rob Parker who rode at NDL and MDL level a couple of years ago, and who I believe was the grandson of Norman and great-nephew of Jack. Edited December 30, 2021 by PotteringAround Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted December 30, 2021 52 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: There was Roger Parker who had a not very spectacular short stint with Stoke in the early 70s before being killed at a grasstrack meeting. And Rob Parker who rode at NDL and MDL level a couple of years ago, and who I believe was the grandson of Norman and great-nephew of Jack. Oops! Should have remembered Roger! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatface 2,553 Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, waiheke1 said: Les on top form was truly world class (add the 80 BLRC to his 82 performances). From 83-86 Phil was the better rider though ( and Les was arguably surpassed by Neil as well from 85), with thr highlight being the overseas title win in the wet. I see your point, but to me there is no question that they rank Peter, Les, Phil, Neil, Stephen. If there's a question mark, it's whether Neil's longevity places him ahead of Phil (personally, I'd say not). I wouldn't ask anyone outside to debate that. The anorak in me likes the age ranking order alongside their biggest achievements... Peter - 1st World Final Les - 1st Intercontinental Final Phil - 1st Overseas Final Neil - 3rd Commonwealth Final Steve - 1st, erm, in a GB Junior Grasstrack Final? But I can't help the nagging suspicion that Les's purple patch in 82 which resulted in the Intercontinental title and finishing 2nd in the World Final (and let's be honest, he really should have won it), owed a fair bit to having a the fastest bike. For whatever reason, that Jawa was ticking over brilliantly. Faster than Penhall's Eddie Bull-tuned Weslake, faster than anyone else. Les never reached those heights again, he was never an automatic for England and only ever averaged 8 at best in the BL. Loved watching him though. One of my favourite moments was seeing live the opening race of the Edinburgh - Glasgow KO Cup Final in 94? It was packed at Powderhall and Les brought the house down by rounding both Robert Nagy and Mick Powell on the last bend to win. Edited December 30, 2021 by falcace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sotonian 610 Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, falcace said: I wouldn't ask anyone outside to debate that. The anorak in me likes the age ranking order alongside their biggest achievements... Peter - 1st World Final Les - 1st Intercontinental Final Phil - 1st Overseas Final Neil - 3rd Commonwealth Final Steve - 1st, erm, in a GB Junior Grasstrack Final? But I can't help the nagging suspicion that Les's purple patch in 82 which resulted in the Intercontinental title and finishing 2nd in the World Final (and let's be honest, he really should have won it), owed a fair bit to having a the fastest bike. For whatever reason, that Jawa was ticking over brilliantly. Faster than Penhall's Eddie Bull-tuned Weslake, faster than anyone else. Les never reached those heights again, he was never an automatic for England and only ever averaged 8 at best in the BL. Loved watching him though. One of my favourite moments was seeing live the opening race of the Edinburgh - Glasgow KO Cup Final in 94? It was packed at Powderhall and Les brought the house down by rounding both Robert Nagy and Mick Powell on the last bend to win. My cheekier take on them: Peter made World Champion Les made World Runner-up Phil made the World Final Neil made the British Final Steve made the tea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,091 Posted December 30, 2021 Andersson - Jan, Bjorn, Bengt, Stefan, Ake, Dennis, Joel, Eric, Daniel, Marcus, Jonas... Andersen - Jan, Frank, Brian, Kasper, Hans, Morten, Anders... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
