W9 Lion 222 Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said: No, but you can if your a red flagger. Or the start marshal and all you have to do is count to two... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Petecc said: Other country's look after their oap's better than we do and don't feel the need to be embarrassed about asking full price to a pensioner who worked hard all his life only for the state to mug him off when he gets old. More so than ever when your spouse has died, and in my case, I have not been able to work due to health issues since 1985, so only source of income is a very reduced state pension. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petecc 352 Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: No, but you can if your a red flagger. You assume that's the only job flag Marshall do. Some work as track volunteers on other days or arrive hours before racing starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Petecc said: You assume that's the only job flag Marshall do. Some work as track volunteers on other days or arrive hours before racing starts. Yeah,,, am well aware of that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justgotmecpc 1,059 Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said: Yeah,,, am well aware of that. Still waiting for you to get a sweat on a Sunday afternoon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted February 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Justgotmecpc said: Still waiting for you to get a sweat on a Sunday afternoon You're body sweat's to cool itself down,,, you may not need too if you're naturally cool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justgotmecpc 1,059 Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: You're body sweat's to cool itself down,,, you may not need too if you're naturally cool. Who told you that your cool mmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted February 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Justgotmecpc said: Who told you that your cool mmmm The Devil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justgotmecpc 1,059 Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: The Devil. Was he red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Justgotmecpc said: Was he red Did look a little bit embarrassed like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandit59 1,151 Posted March 12, 2022 Concessions,oaps, seniors ,does this mean over 65s I've been told I need to work till I'm 67 to get a pension so don't become an OAP till then !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crescent girl 1,905 Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Concessions,oaps, seniors ,does this mean over 65s I've been told I need to work till I'm 67 to get a pension so don't become an OAP till then !!!! I'd think -- but dont quote me -- it is reasonable for a theatre, football club, circus, speedway club to offer reduced prices for pensioners. Anyone not yet elugible for state pension might be presumed ti be working, and therefore able to pay full whack . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, crescent girl said: it is reasonable for a theatre, football club, circus, speedway club to offer reduced prices for pensioners Why is it "reasonable" when the costs of bread milk, groceries, clothes and other essentials isn't reduced? To say it's "reasonable" implies a logical thought process that presumably comes out of a sense of entitlement. That "entitlement" comes at the cost of the people whose incomes are reduced for the custom of such "entitled" people. I spoke to a promoter a few years ago, whose headline adult admission cost was £15 (shows how long ago it was lol) but whose "average revenue per person" was only £11 after all the concessions had been factored in. Assuming an attendance of 1,000, that's £4 per person, or £4,000 that's being lost to the business every week. I'm sure that those self-same people feel just as "entitled" to their speedway fix, well there'll come a time when it''ll be one thing or another, they won't be able to have both. Edited March 13, 2022 by uk_martin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, uk_martin said: Why is it "reasonable" when the costs of bread milk, groceries, clothes and other essentials isn't reduced? To say it's "reasonable" implies a logical thought process that presumably comes out of a sense of entitlement. That "entitlement" comes at the cost of the people whose incomes are reduced for the custom of such "entitled" people. I spoke to a promoter a few years ago, whose headline adult admission cost was £15 (shows how long ago it was lol) but whose "average revenue per person" was only £11 after all the concessions had been factored in. Assuming an attendance of 1,000, that's £4 per person, or £4,000 that's being lost to the business every week. I'm sure that those self-same people feel just as "entitled" to their speedway fix, well there'll come a time when it''ll be one thing or another, they won't be able to have both. The "Grey Pound" is one of the most sought after... Simply because many of those who have retired are a lot more "bomb proof" from external financial factors that those who still are working and raising families are... The disposable income of pensioners given so many now have private pensions bought around the 80's/90's is considerably higher than the generation that has gone before, and the next generation of pensioners will be even better off with many having also made fortunes in their property before down sizing... My old man is 84, lives by himself, and has much more disposable income than me, with mortgage, kids etc... The 65 year old pensioner of today was born in the late fifties, hence were 30 somethings in the 80's when share ownership became the "norm" for so many, as were ISA's etc, and have benefited from high employment levels for the most part, huge house price increases, and also excellent health and nutrition improvements in relation to their parents, which means many are still very active... No real reason to charge them less to be honest... Tracks would be much better charging a family of four admission with a healthy discount, as they are the social group which invariably only make a small percentage total of those who currently attend... And will be the ones most severely impacted by the cost of inflation rises... Edited March 13, 2022 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted March 13, 2022 9 hours ago, mikebv said: The "Grey Pound" is one of the most sought after... Simply because many of those who have retired are a lot more "bomb proof" from external financial factors that those who still are working and raising families are... The disposable income of pensioners given so many now have private pensions bought around the 80's/90's is considerably higher than the generation that has gone before, and the next generation of pensioners will be even better off with many having also made fortunes in their property before down sizing... My old man is 84, lives by himself, and has much more disposable income than me, with mortgage, kids etc... The 65 year old pensioner of today was born in the late fifties, hence were 30 somethings in the 80's when share ownership became the "norm" for so many, as were ISA's etc, and have benefited from high employment levels for the most part, huge house price increases, and also excellent health and nutrition improvements in relation to their parents, which means many are still very active... No real reason to charge them less to be honest... Tracks would be much better charging a family of four admission with a healthy discount, as they are the social group which invariably only make a small percentage total of those who currently attend... And will be the ones most severely impacted by the cost of inflation rises... Seeing that a typical speedway crowed looks as if it’s made up of 75% pensioners. Put their entry up to Normal price and you would loose a lot of the crowd. Don’t forgot that Sunday suspended the triple factor pension rise because 8% didn’t suit them, instead this year we get 3.1%, yet inflation at the time was 8% and is again. We get the same gas/electric increases, food price increases, council tax, what savings we may have we still get the same miserable interest as everyone else. My pension is half of the national average. For you to be saying we are well off I can tell you we are not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
