GiveusaB 1,133 Posted March 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, HGould said: There can be processional races everywhere however good or bad the track is. The only thing they are doing at Leicester is trying and innovating. The original track shape and banking has been altered several times and the camber on the first turn has been improved and may be improved further. The fact that the track is extensively used for practice must hamper preparation on occasions but without practice there would be no conveyor belt of new talent. Swindon was massively improved by shortening the straights are rounding off the corners and a few tracks may benefit from that as the issue it seems are bikes and modern engines and set up's as much as tracks, even though Leicester is a relative new build. Give the Promotion there credit where it's due and as someone else has said, better a track where racing is ocasionally boring than no racing at all, you only have to look down the road at Coventry and Cradley to realise that. you mean 'weekly' ! It's awful value for money..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,053 Posted March 30, 2022 Poole and Birmingham fans criticising anyone else's track is just laughable really... Its also no one else fault other than there own that Birmingham's team is awful 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted March 30, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 4:45 PM, Berry9 said: A Speedway heat is meant to be a race over 4 laps not a race to the first corner In speedway, if the best riders gates first (which is a contributory factor as to why they are “good” in the first place) then the “not so good” riders will finish behind them. On Saturday there were very few times the “not so good “ riders got out of the gate first & when they did, the good riders passed them. Hence why 4 of the Lions team achieved paid maximums. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,018 Posted March 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Poole and Birmingham fans criticising anyone else's track is just laughable really... Its also no one else fault other than there own that Birmingham's team is awful Hmm, not sure I criticised it. I just said we gated. However seeing as you brought up Poole, all the riders were impressed with the track on p+p day and said 'you can tell they have worked on it in the winter.' Even Steve Hone said it is the best it has been for years. Anyway back to Leicester, people always say it is the shape that causes the problems and not much you can really do about that is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,963 Posted March 30, 2022 It's good to see that the discussion of the Leicester track has only taken until the first match of the season to appear again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) On 3/30/2022 at 10:16 AM, lisa-colette said: Anyway back to Leicester, people always say it is the shape that causes the problems and not much you can really do about that is there. Leicester may not have the best race track in the UK (there can only be one of them) but a more accurate statement would be "people always use to say it is the shape that causes the problems" - Given the changes made over the past few years to the shape, length and banking of the track , the only folk who now continue to cite the track as "poor" or "wrong" are those who have not attended a Leicester meeting in recent times or expect something which frankly speedway never deliver's anywhere - ever - i.e. 4 laps of racing with many multiple passes in all races. Meanwhile those who have attended meetings at Leicester will have seen comparable racing/passes to that seen at most UK tracks and not just for the front two places but also for the minor (but just as important) third place. Edited March 31, 2022 by 1 valve 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LionsFan 44 Posted March 31, 2022 I think a different type of shale has been used in the last season or two which has also improved racing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PowerfulPierre 88 Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, LionsFan said: I think a different type of shale has been used in the last season or two which has also improved racing. You're absolutely right LionsFan. The shale that is now used has been sourced in Edinburgh and brought down at great expense by the lorry load. (don't start me off on the cost of diesel)!!! I was speaking to Hugh (Stewart's friend and right hand man) on Saturday night, and he was saying that it combines better with the clay that gives a much better race surface. This promotion have thrown a shed load of money at the track, what with altering the shape and banking and experimenting with different types of shale until, they now appear to have found the best material for the job, and had it brought down to Leicester at goodness knows what expense. Anyone who is still involved in knocking the track and the racing has clearly missed some excellent meetings last year and I suspect if they bother to turn up this weekend will witness a close fought contest with some good racing. No disrespect to Birmingham, but sadly because of circumstances during the winter, they were precluded from forming a highly competitive side which therefore made for lack lustre racing last week! It had nothing to do with the track or it's shape! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,198 Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, PowerfulPierre said: You're absolutely right LionsFan. The shale that is now used has been sourced in Edinburgh and brought down at great expense by the lorry load. (don't start me off on the cost of diesel)!!! I was speaking to Hugh (Stewart's friend and right hand man) on Saturday night, and he was saying that it combines better with the clay that gives a much better race surface. This promotion have thrown a shed load of money at the track, what with altering the shape and banking and experimenting with different types of shale until, they now appear to have found the best material for the job, and had it brought down to Leicester at goodness knows what expense. Anyone who is still involved in knocking the track and the racing has clearly missed some excellent meetings last year and I suspect if they bother to turn up this weekend will witness a close fought contest with some good racing. No disrespect to Birmingham, but sadly because of circumstances during the winter, they were precluded from forming a highly competitive side which therefore made for lack lustre racing last week! It had nothing to do with the track or it's shape! it would have cost more for transport than the shale itself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Al 708 Posted March 31, 2022 It was the outrageously bogus claims the former promoter (and track designer) used to make, which probably did most to annoy and drove many away although the strung out processions of course did so too. But even then an away rider with brains could figure out how to pass, including using an outside line (Joe Screen). Same now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonds85 698 Posted April 1, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 10:17 AM, Col said: I'm not saying Ellis riding would have made any difference to the result on the night, merely suggesting it may have made the second leg more interesting. But what I'm trying to say is that even if Ellis rode, the second leg would have still been too far gone imo. Leicester are so much stronger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,214 Posted April 1, 2022 22 hours ago, mac101 said: it would have cost more for transport than the shale itself If its the same shale as Sheffield, it also cost a fortune Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 851 Posted April 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: But what I'm trying to say is that even if Ellis rode, the second leg would have still been too far gone imo. Leicester are so much stronger Probably. Cancel the KO cup!!! Leicester v Poole v Glasgow. Round Robin competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edmon 166 Posted April 2, 2022 12 hours ago, The Third Man said: If its the same shale as Sheffield, it also cost a fortune Don't know if its shale from the Niddry Bing, Winchburgh, west of Edinburgh, which many tracks are now using. If it is I suspect the shale cost isn't too bad its most likely the transpost costs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,963 Posted April 2, 2022 Has the admission cost increased at Leicester this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
