Mimmo 1,070 Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 6:06 PM, Sings4Speedway said: Does anyone have the line ups from the completed matches? Would be interesting to see if the intended level was achieved? BELLE VUE RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGEFreddy Hodder 3 9 22 1 23 9.78 Sam McGurk 2 4 9 1 10 9.00 Kyran Lyden 3 9 16 2 18 7.11 Jack Shimelt 3 11 8 2 10 2.91 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 IPSWICHJosh Warren 1 4 6 0 6 6.00 Jacob Clouting 1 4 5 0 5 5.00 Sam Woods 1 4 2 1 3 2.00 KING’S LYNNSam Hagon 1 3 8 0 8 10.67 Jody Scott 1 3 8 1 9 10.67 Ashton Boughen 1 4 6 2 8 6.00 PETERBOROUGHSam Bebee 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Arran Butcher 2 6 11 2 13 7.33 Matt Marson 1 3 4 1 5 5.33 Max Perry 2 6 7 1 8 4.67 Rhys Naylor 1 3 3 1 4 4.00 SHEFFIELD Dan Thompson 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Ace Pijper 2 6 14 0 14 9.33 Max Perry 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Tom Spencer 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Max James 1 3 5 0 5 6.67 Kai Ward 2 6 10 1 11 6.67 Jack Shimelt 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Mickie Simpson 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Eli Meadows 2 6 3 1 4 2.00 Kyran Lyden 1 3 1 1 2 1.33 Edward Davison 2 6 1 1 2 0.67 Billy Budd 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WOLVERHAMPTONJoe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 2 6 11 1 12 7.33 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 6.67 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Sam Woolley 3 8 10 2 12 5.00 Luke Killeen 1 2 0 0 0 0.00 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,620 Posted October 10, 2022 So excepting the Thompson twins, basically NDL reserves and second strings. Impressive of Sheffield to use so many riders in so few matches. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,486 Posted October 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Mimmo said: BELLE VUE RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGEFreddy Hodder 3 9 22 1 23 9.78 Sam McGurk 2 4 9 1 10 9.00 Kyran Lyden 3 9 16 2 18 7.11 Jack Shimelt 3 11 8 2 10 2.91 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 IPSWICHJosh Warren 1 4 6 0 6 6.00 Jacob Clouting 1 4 5 0 5 5.00 Sam Woods 1 4 2 1 3 2.00 KING’S LYNNSam Hagon 1 3 8 0 8 10.67 Jody Scott 1 3 8 1 9 10.67 Ashton Boughen 1 4 6 2 8 6.00 PETERBOROUGHSam Bebee 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Arran Butcher 2 6 11 2 13 7.33 Matt Marson 1 3 4 1 5 5.33 Max Perry 2 6 7 1 8 4.67 Rhys Naylor 1 3 3 1 4 4.00 SHEFFIELD Dan Thompson 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Ace Pijper 2 6 14 0 14 9.33 Max Perry 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Tom Spencer 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Max James 1 3 5 0 5 6.67 Kai Ward 2 6 10 1 11 6.67 Jack Shimelt 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Mickie Simpson 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Eli Meadows 2 6 3 1 4 2.00 Kyran Lyden 1 3 1 1 2 1.33 Edward Davison 2 6 1 1 2 0.67 Billy Budd 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WOLVERHAMPTONJoe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 2 6 11 1 12 7.33 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 6.67 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Sam Woolley 3 8 10 2 12 5.00 Luke Killeen 1 2 0 0 0 0.00 Think personally that is a very good level of rider for a junior competition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fortythirtyeight 838 Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 4:57 PM, phillwhitewasmad said: Think personally that is a very good level of rider for a junior competition A pity the clubs didn’t make more of an effort then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,486 Posted October 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: A pity the clubs didn’t make more of an effort then. Some did some didn't as has been stated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 631 Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) On 10/10/2022 at 11:53 AM, Mimmo said: BELLE VUE RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGEFreddy Hodder 3 9 22 1 23 9.78 Sam McGurk 2 4 9 1 10 9.00 Kyran Lyden 3 9 16 2 18 7.11 Jack Shimelt 3 11 8 2 10 2.91 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 IPSWICHJosh Warren 1 4 6 0 6 6.00 Jacob Clouting 1 4 5 0 5 5.00 Sam Woods 1 4 2 1 3 2.00 KING’S LYNNSam Hagon 1 3 8 0 8 10.67 Jody Scott 1 3 8 1 9 10.67 Ashton Boughen 1 4 6 2 8 6.00 PETERBOROUGHSam Bebee 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Arran Butcher 2 6 11 2 13 7.33 Matt Marson 1 3 4 1 5 5.33 Max Perry 2 6 7 1 8 4.67 Rhys Naylor 1 3 3 1 4 4.00 SHEFFIELD Dan Thompson 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Ace Pijper 2 6 14 0 14 9.33 Max Perry 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Tom Spencer 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Max James 1 3 5 0 5 6.67 Kai Ward 2 6 10 1 11 6.67 Jack Shimelt 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Mickie Simpson 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Eli Meadows 2 6 3 1 4 2.00 Kyran Lyden 1 3 1 1 2 1.33 Edward Davison 2 6 1 1 2 0.67 Billy Budd 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WOLVERHAMPTONJoe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 2 6 11 1 12 7.33 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 6.67 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Sam Woolley 3 8 10 2 12 5.00 Luke Killeen 1 2 0 0 0 0.00 Don't know about the rest, haven't had time to check them, but Wolves and Belle Vue are definitely wrong. They should be Belle Vue RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Freddy Hodder 4 11 22 1 23 8.36 Sam McGurk 3 7 15 1 16 9.14 Kyran Lyden 4 13 21 2 23 7.08 Jack Shimelt 4 14 8 2 10 2.86 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 Wolverhampton RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Joe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 3 10 20 2 22 8.80 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 8.00 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 7.00 Sam Woolley 4 12 13 2 15 5 .00 Luke Killeen 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 Edited October 12, 2022 by PotteringAround Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,246 Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Don't know about the rest, haven't had time to check them, but Wolves and Belle Vue are definitely wrong. They should be Belle Vue RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Freddy Hodder 4 11 22 1 23 8.36 Sam McGurk 3 7 15 1 16 9.14 Kyran Lyden 4 13 21 2 23 7.08 Jack Shimelt 4 14 8 2 10 2.86 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 Wolverhampton RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Joe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 3 10 20 2 22 8.80 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 6.67 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 7.00 Sam Woolley 4 12 13 2 15 5 .00 Luke Killeen 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 very confused now as some of the averages are calculated including bonus points and some not? Thought averages normally were done without BP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 631 Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: very confused now as some of the averages are calculated including bonus points and some not? Thought averages normally were done without BP? Yes. I wondered why they'd included bonus points. All I did was correct the number of matches, rides, and points for Wolves and Belle Vue as they were wrong. I stuck to including bonus points on the corrected calculations as that was the way the original poster had mainly done it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted October 20, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 11:36 AM, PotteringAround said: Don't know about the rest, haven't had time to check them, but Wolves and Belle Vue are definitely wrong. They should be Belle Vue RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Freddy Hodder 4 11 22 1 23 8.36 Sam McGurk 3 7 15 1 16 9.14 Kyran Lyden 4 13 21 2 23 7.08 Jack Shimelt 4 14 8 2 10 2.86 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 Wolverhampton RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Joe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 3 10 20 2 22 8.80 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 8.00 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 7.00 Sam Woolley 4 12 13 2 15 5 .00 Luke Killeen 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 Just to select one rider at random I know that Tom Spencer rode at Wolverhampton on the 22nd August and Sheffield on the 1st September, if you could advise me where he had his third meeting that you are showing, could you let me know where please, then I'll amend my records accordingly. The other differences you say you've found, might resolve themselves from whatever meeting it was,. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 631 Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Mimmo said: Just to select one rider at random I know that Tom Spencer rode at Wolverhampton on the 22nd August and Sheffield on the 1st September, if you could advise me where he had his third meeting that you are showing, could you let me know where please, then I'll amend my records accordingly. The other differences you say you've found, might resolve themselves from whatever meeting it was,. Thanks. Since it's the Belle Vue and Wolverhampton averages that are wrong, I would suspect you have missed the Belle Vue v Wolves match entirely? https://britishspeedway.co.uk/22results/belle_vue_13.06.22_res_pjl.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted October 20, 2022 Thanks I'll check that out tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted October 21, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 11:36 AM, PotteringAround said: Don't know about the rest, haven't had time to check them, but Wolves and Belle Vue are definitely wrong. They should be Belle Vue RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Freddy Hodder 4 11 22 1 23 8.36 Sam McGurk 3 7 15 1 16 9.14 Kyran Lyden 4 13 21 2 23 7.08 Jack Shimelt 4 14 8 2 10 2.86 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 Wolverhampton RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Joe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Tom Spencer 3 10 20 2 22 8.80 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 8.00 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 7.00 Sam Woolley 4 12 13 2 15 5 .00 Luke Killeen 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 Good Morning PotteringAround Firstly, thank you for advising me that I had missed the Belle Vue v Wolves meeting on the 13 June. I apologise for that, and have now included it in the averages below. Secondly, you are showing Kyran Lyden as having had 13-rides. But I've checked back over the referees programmes, and they show him as taking 3-rides at the four meetings that he rode in, making a total of 12-rides of course. Thirdly, you say that I included bonus points in my original posting, but that is incorrect if you look back, as that rightly or wrongly, is not the way the system works. If you should happen to find mistakes with the other clubs, I'll happily put those right if you are kind enough to point them out to me. Best Wishes. BELLE VUE RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGESam McGurk 3 7 15 1 16 8.57 Freddy Hodder 4 11 22 1 23 8.00 Kyran Lyden 4 12 21 2 23 7.00 Eli Meadows 1 3 2 0 2 2.67 Jack Shimelt 4 14 8 2 10 2.29 IPSWICHJosh Warren 1 4 6 0 6 6.00 Jacob Clouting 1 4 5 0 5 5.00 Sam Woods 1 4 2 1 3 2.00 KING’S LYNNSam Hagon 1 3 8 0 8 10.67 Jody Scott 1 3 8 1 9 10.67 Ashton Boughen 1 4 6 2 8 6.00 PETERBOROUGHSam Bebee 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Arran Butcher 2 6 11 2 13 7.33 Matt Marson 1 3 4 1 5 5.33 Max Perry 2 6 7 1 8 4.67 Rhys Naylor 1 3 3 1 4 4.00 SHEFFIELD Dan Thompson 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Ace Pijper 2 6 14 0 14 9.33 Max Perry 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Tom Spencer 1 3 7 0 7 9.33 Max James 1 3 5 0 5 6.67 Kai Ward 2 6 10 1 11 6.67 Jack Shimelt 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Mickie Simpson 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 Eli Meadows 2 6 3 1 4 2.00 Kyran Lyden 1 3 1 1 2 1.33 Edward Davison 2 6 1 1 2 0.67 Billy Budd 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WOLVERHAMPTONJoe Thompson 3 9 24 0 24 10.67 Luke Killeen 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 Tom Spencer 3 10 20 2 22 8.00 Luke Harrison 2 6 10 2 12 6.67 James Laker 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Sam Woolley 4 12 13 2 15 4.33 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
