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Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season..

Yet those who run the sport didnt, which probably speaks volumes..

Putting uncompetitive teams in a league doesnt work for anyone, as history has been shown in many a long year..

Clubs will have paid out thousands hammering the Diamonds and will have no points to show for it..

And the Diamonds would have been no attraction when visiting meaning getting a crowd in would be a harder sell..

There should be clear leadership well before a season starts that decides whether a declared team can run within each league, and either contrive a more equal distribution of talent to make them competitive or only allow them to ride at a lower standard...

With teams to be declared well in advance, not being allowed to "thrutch around" in bargain basements to put 7 riders together.. 

Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with...

All to get into those "Oh so important play offs"...:rolleyes:

Best wishes to anyone who comes in and takes over....

Let's hope someone does..

And this time they dont find out some serious legacy issues like Grant did...

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3 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season..

Yet those who run the sport didnt, which probably speaks volumes..

Putting uncompetitive teams in a league doesnt work for anyone, as history has been shown in many a long year..

Clubs will have paid out thousands hammering the Diamonds and will have no points to show for it..

And the Diamonds would have been no attraction when visiting meaning getting a crowd in would be a harder sell..

There should be clear leadership well before a season starts that decides whether a declared team can run within each league, and either contrive a more equal distribution of talent to make them competitive or only allow them to ride at a lower standard...

With teams to be declared well in advance, not being allowed to "thrutch around" in bargain basements to put 7 riders together.. 

Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with...

All to get into those "Oh so important play offs"...:rolleyes:

Best wishes to anyone who comes in and takes over....

Let's hope someone does..

And this time they dont find out some serious legacy issues like Grant did...

Never was the tune another one bites the dust so perfect for this sport

With the current model of domestic speedway there are too many clubs running so who is next?

Feel for the fans only, if the sport as a whole was run differently clubs like Newcastle could survive

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Given the events at Newcastle over the last couple of years this comes as little surprise sadly. Rob Grant clearly didn't do his homework while taking over the club then found himself way over his head. There were/are several offers of help but they seem to fallen on deaf ears so the club have went from one disaster to another. At the bottom of this of course is the fans who now have lost their speedway and they have my upmost sympathy, slim chance of finding a new owner but a slim chance is better than no chance at all.

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14 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season..

Yet those who run the sport didn't, which probably speaks volumes..

<snip>

Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with...

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1) Even from a distance, this was sadly so very predictable.

2) Can imagine the vultures are gathering already.  Birmingham could probably sign Clegg, or even Starke, in place of Pearson.

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12 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said:

Never was the tune another one bites the dust so perfect for this sport

With the current model of domestic speedway there are too many clubs running so who is next?

Feel for the fans only, if the sport as a whole was run differently clubs like Newcastle could survive

When the penny finally drops (if it ever will), that given the way they decide to run the sport, the entertainment value they provide as a collective throughout the whole season, means 1000% far more to the sport than any individual team gaining play off success ever will...

When only 20000 or so watch the sport regularly each week, losing 600/700 is a big blow...

And with just a modicum amount of clear leadership, strategy and planning, could be so easily avoided...

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said:

1) Even from a distance, this was sadly so very predictable.

2) Can imagine the vultures are gathering already.  Birmingham could probably sign Clegg, or even Starke, in place of Pearson.

Out of the frying pan in to another frying pan?

10 minutes ago, mikebv said:

When the penny finally drops (if it ever will), that given the way they decide to run the sport, the entertainment value they provide as a collective throughout the whole season, means 1000% far more to the sport than any individual team gaining play off success ever will...

When only 20000 or so watch the sport regularly each week, losing 600/700 is a big blow...

And with just a modicum amount of clear leadership, strategy and planning, could be so easily avoided...

 

 

Are you putting yourself forward? :t: unfortunately those in power would much rather mastermind their own demise than do anything for the greater good :angry:

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Riders will go wherever there's a guarantee of being paid.

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43 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Many a blind man foresaw this at the start of the season..

Yet those who run the sport didnt, which probably speaks volumes..

Putting uncompetitive teams in a league doesnt work for anyone, as history has been shown in many a long year..

Clubs will have paid out thousands hammering the Diamonds and will have no points to show for it..

And the Diamonds would have been no attraction when visiting meaning getting a crowd in would be a harder sell..

There should be clear leadership well before a season starts that decides whether a declared team can run within each league, and either contrive a more equal distribution of talent to make them competitive or only allow them to ride at a lower standard...

With teams to be declared well in advance, not being allowed to "thrutch around" in bargain basements to put 7 riders together.. 

Hopefully the Diamonds can be saved and their die hard fans keep access to the sport, but you do suspect that some clubs will already be trying to cherry pick riders that they will replace their own riders with...

All to get into those "Oh so important play offs"...:rolleyes:

Best wishes to anyone who comes in and takes over....

Let's hope someone does..

And this time they dont find out some serious legacy issues like Grant did...

Again, grant chose to put this cheap team together..if you go back and read messaged from THJ there's numerous evidence of this. Nothing to do with the league set up!!!

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Feeling a bit uncomfortable with people slagging Grant & Co, but hey, every is entitled to their opinion.  It was a poisoned chalice from the beginning taking over the club. The tax debt from previous management was the tell tale sign that things were going south for a few years previously for our beloved club.  The chances of getting someone in.....I think we all know thats slim, there was hardly a rush for it last season. I hope everyone is at peace with themselves, whether you did the trackwalk and picked up some shale, got your favourite merchandise, photo with your favourite rider.....time to treasure it.

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Very sad but so predictable. 

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1 minute ago, Jaizer said:

Again, grant chose to put this cheap team together..if you go back and read messaged from THJ there's numerous evidence of this. Nothing to do with the league set up!!!

100% to do with the league set up...

The team chosen were not good enough by a country mile...

Therefore "the leadership" of the sport should have not allowed it...

If that was all he could put together then it should have been NDL or nothing.. 

Letting that team race against teams with up to 3 Div 1 HL's was a ludicrous decision and clearly doomed to fail..

As a leader you have to make very tough decisions sometimes for the greater good..

Speedway desperately needs that level of leadership...

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1 minute ago, mikebv said:

100% to do with the league set up...

The team chosen were not good enough by a country mile...

Therefore "the leadership" of the sport should have not allowed it...

If that was all he could put together then it should have been NDL or nothing.. 

Letting that team race against teams with up to 3 Div 1 HL's was a ludicrous decision and clearly doomed to fail..

As a leader you have to make very tough decisions sometimes for the greater good..

Speedway desperately needs that level of leadership...

No, you and Etonian bleet on about the set up, too many heat leaders in one team etc etc then jump on this as evidence to your claim.

End of the day starting team was what 3/4 points below limit with a rider with an average over 8.

On this occasion a cheap team was built relatively close to the points limit so why would management committee refuse them entry? Until they got a decent track were holding their own at home which really was all that was asked for.

It's a sad day for the sport, one of its oldest, traditional clubs that's ran concurrently for my lifetime is potentially gone. It's no day for point scoring IMO

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6 minutes ago, Wardey said:

Feeling a bit uncomfortable with people slagging Grant & Co, but hey, every is entitled to their opinion.  It was a poisoned chalice from the beginning taking over the club. The tax debt from previous management was the tell tale sign that things were going south for a few years previously for our beloved club.  The chances of getting someone in.....I think we all know thats slim, there was hardly a rush for it last season. I hope everyone is at peace with themselves, whether you did the trackwalk and picked up some shale, got your favourite merchandise, photo with your favourite rider.....time to treasure it.

Granty was the man in charge.Bit off more than he could chew by the looks of it.IMO.

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