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  1. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Big difference though you claim the ONS say 5% but the ONS i read says closer to 80% i appreciate i might need to analyze deeper, could you provide the ONS link that claims 5% and of course ill read.
  2. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Thats because it is higher than 5% this is last week ONS report. Of the 400 deaths involving COVID-19 in Week 13 in England and Wales, 308 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (77.0%) 77% is actually lower than it has been for months, it has generally been between 80-90% but these are only on the official ONS site.
  3. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    No idea the ONS only say underlying which i suggest mean the main cause, maybe you know different if you have a link?
  4. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Really, do you have a link as the ONS that i look at says, Of the 2,105 deaths involving COVID-19 in Week 9 in England and Wales, 1,685 had this recorded as the UNDERLYING cause of death (80.0%). 80% is a lower figure than the majority of weeks recently they have averaged mid 80s
  5. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    ONS Week 6 figures In Week 6, the number of deaths registered in England and Wales was 28.8% above the five-year average (3,429 deaths higher). Of the deaths registered in Week 6 in England and Wales, 5,691 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)"; a decrease of 1,629 deaths compared with Week 5. In Week 6, deaths involving COVID-19 accounted for 37.1% of all deaths in England and Wales. Of the 5,691 deaths involving COVID-19 in Week 6 in England and Wales, 5,035 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (88.5%). Of the 4,262 deaths that involved Influenza and Pneumonia, 296 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (6.9%).
  6. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    ONS week 2 main points, Of the 7,245 deaths involving COVID-19, 6,510 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (89.9%). Of the deaths that involved Influenza and Pneumonia, 381 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (7.2%). In Week 2, the number of deaths registered was 30.5% above the five-year average (4,220 deaths higher). In Week 2, deaths involving COVID-19 accounted for 40.2% of all deaths in England and Wales; this is the highest proportion of deaths involving COVID-19 that has been recorded during the pandemic. In England, all English regions had a higher number of deaths than the five-year average for the 10th week in a row.
  7. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Week 1 ONS release Of the 6,057 deaths involving COVID-19, 5,367 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (88.6%).
  8. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    DC maybe you are trying to underplay the seriousness of covid as you said yourself earlier in this thread you thought the death toll to be as little as 2,000 to 10,000.
  9. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    DC you are quoting a copy paste off the ONS. The point is the ONS figures clearly state Covid was the main cause of death in over 90% of the cases to September, you keep saying otherwise, the ONS even changed the wording so as not to confuse, it is in the latest release.
  10. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Where did I ever say Covid had been mentioned on death certificates whether or not it was the underlying cause. Please don't misquote me to further your Jackanory rubbish. You are making a point which is not valid. Do try to answer my points with facts rather than lies.
  11. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Would this be the same ONS that you doubted the figures on a post I made recently. See DC the problem is you can't use ONS figures to benefit your own Jackanory story rhetoric, then dismiss them when others use the same source.
  12. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Dont read MSM then, true Gates wont go away but we wont have to read about him. I have to come to the BSF to see twitter and facebook rubbish, honestly MSM really is quite easily avoided if you wish.
  13. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Not according to the ONS they dont Between 1 January and 31 August 2020, 52,327 deaths in England and Wales involved COVID-19. Out of these, 48,168 deaths were due to COVID-19: that is, COVID-19 was the underlying cause.
  14. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Question them yes of course, I certainly don't believe all and everything on the ONS or the government, but they are the only figures out there. It does make it almost impossible to trust the ONS then if were to believe some things they print yet disbelieve others. I might bite the bullet and start using facebook, twitter, mumsnet and reddit for the official line
  15. Swindonseptet

    Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

    Strange thing to say Blu considering the ONS say, Between 1 January and 31 August 2020, 52,327 deaths in England and Wales involved COVID-19. Out of these, 48,168 deaths were due to COVID-19: that is, COVID-19 was the underlying cause. This was 12.4% of all deaths for the period (389,835 deaths). In the same period 69,781 deaths involved pneumonia and 506 deaths involved influenza: out of these, 13,619 and 394 deaths were due to pneumonia and influenza respectively (3.5% and 0.1% of all deaths). Therefore, there were 1.3 times as many deaths where influenza or pneumonia was a contributory factor than COVID-19, but COVID-19 was the underlying cause in 3.4 times as many deaths. Of the deaths where both influenza and pneumonia, and COVID-19 were mentioned on the death certificate, the underlying cause of death was COVID-19 in 95.8% (18,642 deaths) of cases. This is compared with 0.04% (eight deaths) of deaths where influenza and pneumonia were the underlying cause of death. heres a link https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsduetocoronaviruscovid19comparedwithdeathsfrominfluenzaandpneumoniaenglandandwales/deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31august2020
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