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On 12/19/2020 at 1:22 PM, PHILIPRISING said:

WOULD have thought the exchange of such informative benefits countries in or out of the EU and shouldn't be the subject of bureaucratic nonsense to the detriment of all.

You have to have laws in place which cover the exchange of information between countries.  Each nation both protects and facilitates - there are mechanisms to exchange for criminal matters, as there are with many many countries but when outside the EU, we cannot enjoy routine unfettered access to their data stores (not they ours) and enforcement on behalf of another country then has to be carried out using the national legislation in place in both.  

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50 minutes ago, dj350z said:

Yes that is the way a democracy does indeed make important decisions, still doesn't mean a decision is the right one.

Are you actually saying that all democratic decisions have always been the correct one?!!

Electing Hitler...

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5 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

You have to have laws in place which cover the exchange of information between countries.  Each nation both protects and facilitates - there are mechanisms to exchange for criminal matters, as there are with many many countries but when outside the EU, we cannot enjoy routine unfettered access to their data stores (not they ours) and enforcement on behalf of another country then has to be carried out using the national legislation in place in both.  

Brexiteers would be the first to complain if the UK shared information about its citizens with the EU. I remember they whinged about the EU Arrest Warrant as well.

Once again, they think it should be a one way street in the UK's favour.

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59 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Brexiteers would be the first to complain if the UK shared information about its citizens with the EU. I remember they whinged about the EU Arrest Warrant as well.

Once again, they think it should be a one way street in the UK's favour.

ONCE again you are claiming to be the spokesman (person) for all Brexiteers

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This geezer has been spotted down in Dorset...

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4 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

This geezer has been spotted down in Dorset...

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Is that the West 'am fan from Devon ? :D

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1 hour ago, Blupanther said:

This geezer has been spotted down in Dorset...

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Private Walker...my favourite character in "Dad's Army".

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Dad’s army .... just about sums up the standard for uk politics at the moment 

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It's better in France?

 

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Seeing the plastic kraut and Air Miles love copy and paste this post is just for them.....:D
 

The mood began to turn on the German government last week, as soaring cases coupled with the lack of vaccine rollout, disappointed. Best selling newspaper Bild pointed out that the first German had been vaccinated… in the UK. Now Der Spiegel has produced a scathing analysis of the centralised, slow, and inadequate common EU vaccine scheme. As it says, beyond slow approval, “the EU appears to have bought too little, too late and at times from the wrong producers.”

German Health Minister Jens Spahn announced there will initially only be 400,000 vaccine doses for Germany, with millions more not following until well into the new year. By contrast, as of this weekend the UK, with a smaller population, has already delivered 500,000 doses. The failure is clear, and Der Spiegel sets out several reasons for it:

  • The EU “didn’t place concrete orders until mid-November.”
  • The EU purchased too few doses of the vaccine.
  • The EU focussed on the wrong producers, “it appears that it turned down hundreds of millions of vaccine doses that are now lacking.” As Guido reported last week, the EU turned down an offer of 500 million Pfizer doses…
  • The EU was nationalistic in its procurement, leaning heavily on an order of 300 million doses from French company Sanofi, despite American companies showing more promising early trial results.
  • EU countries opposed German attempts to procure more Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines, out of a sense of ‘European solidarity’. One EU procurement insider told Der Spiegel “buying more from a German company wasn’t on the cards” in order to achieve balance with the French company.

While the EU now intents to procure a further 100 million doses from Pfizer and 80 million from Moderna, these will most likely not come until the second half of next year. And in the not-impossible case that these are the only two vaccines that are approved, those orders will not nearly be enough to cover the EU’s population. Boris was initially reticent to say Brexit has helped with the UK’s world beating vaccine rollout. As time goes on it looks more like he needn’t have been…

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9 minutes ago, Phlipphlopp said:

Seeing the plastic kraut and Air Miles love copy and paste this post is just for them.....:D
 

The mood began to turn on the German government last week, as soaring cases coupled with the lack of vaccine rollout, disappointed. Best selling newspaper Bild pointed out that the first German had been vaccinated… in the UK. Now Der Spiegel has produced a scathing analysis of the centralised, slow, and inadequate common EU vaccine scheme. As it says, beyond slow approval, “the EU appears to have bought too little, too late and at times from the wrong producers.”

German Health Minister Jens Spahn announced there will initially only be 400,000 vaccine doses for Germany, with millions more not following until well into the new year. By contrast, as of this weekend the UK, with a smaller population, has already delivered 500,000 doses. The failure is clear, and Der Spiegel sets out several reasons for it:

  • The EU “didn’t place concrete orders until mid-November.”
  • The EU purchased too few doses of the vaccine.
  • The EU focussed on the wrong producers, “it appears that it turned down hundreds of millions of vaccine doses that are now lacking.” As Guido reported last week, the EU turned down an offer of 500 million Pfizer doses…
  • The EU was nationalistic in its procurement, leaning heavily on an order of 300 million doses from French company Sanofi, despite American companies showing more promising early trial results.
  • EU countries opposed German attempts to procure more Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines, out of a sense of ‘European solidarity’. One EU procurement insider told Der Spiegel “buying more from a German company wasn’t on the cards” in order to achieve balance with the French company.

While the EU now intents to procure a further 100 million doses from Pfizer and 80 million from Moderna, these will most likely not come until the second half of next year. And in the not-impossible case that these are the only two vaccines that are approved, those orders will not nearly be enough to cover the EU’s population. Boris was initially reticent to say Brexit has helped with the UK’s world beating vaccine rollout. As time goes on it looks more like he needn’t have been…

 

Strange that Iris hasn’t copy and pasted that on the Covid thread?  :D

Although to be fair he has no idea what’s going on in Germany, following only Sweden.  :D

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4 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

Strange that Iris hasn’t copy and pasted that on the Covid thread?  :D

Although to be fair he has no idea what’s going on in Germany, following only Sweden.  :D

Even if it is only Sweden it is one country more than you........:rolleyes:

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24 minutes ago, iris123 said:

The Guardian. You might as well post links from the Daily Mash , as they are probably more accurate :D

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7 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Electing Hitler...

Or , electing Sturgeon......:D

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