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14 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

I didn't particularly ask them because - believe it or not - I don't generally discuss Brexit in the real world unless people ask me about it. I've seen one or two posting silly Brexit-related stuff, but most of us are from a very pro-Remain area where there is a substantial foreign population and the importance of EU trade is quite well understand. Unlike Swindon, we didn't vote to get rid of our car plant. :rolleyes:

What I can certainly say is that I don't think I know a single graduate who supported Leave. 

Did Boris graduate? Or Gove?

Obviously you don’t move in those circles! :D

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22 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Did Boris graduate? Or Gove?

Obviously you don’t move in those circles! :D

I think it's Humph throwing in another "Red Herring"!

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:rolleyes:

 

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1 hour ago, DC2 said:

Did Boris graduate? Or Gove?

Obviously you don’t move in those circles! :D

I don't know Boris or Gove personally, and have no interest in moving in those circles. I made it clear I was commenting with respect to people I actually knew, although it's also clear that several studies have shown that educational attainment was strongly related to how people voted - 75% of graduates voted Remain, and 70% of voters with no qualifications voted Leave.

I've made no comments about 'intelligence' at all, although you do have to wonder why people who are generally less competitive in the marketplace would want to vote for economic contraction.

 

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7 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

I don't know Boris or Gove personally, and have no interest in moving in those circles. I made it clear I was commenting with respect to people I actually knew, although it's also clear that several studies have shown that educational attainment was strongly related to how people voted - 75% of graduates voted Remain, and 70% of voters with no qualifications voted Leave.

I've made no comments about 'intelligence' at all, although you do have to wonder why people who are generally less competitive in the marketplace would want to vote for economic contraction.

Maybe they voted based on their view of sovereignty, government and bureaucracy, rather than economics?

That’s something Remoaners can’t get into their heads.  :)

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1 hour ago, DC2 said:

Did Boris graduate? Or Gove?

Obviously you don’t move in those circles! :D

I can't imagine anybody would want to move in those circles except for gaslighters and slappers .

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2 minutes ago, jrs said:

I can't imagine anybody would want to move in those circles except for gaslighters and slappers .

Boris has had his member in plenty of those...

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16 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

I didn't particularly ask them because - believe it or not - I don't generally discuss Brexit in the real world unless people ask me about it. I've seen one or two posting silly Brexit-related stuff, but most of us are from a very pro-Remain area where there is a substantial foreign population and the importance of EU trade is quite well understand. Unlike Swindon, we didn't vote to get rid of our car plant. :rolleyes:

What I can certainly say is that I don't think I know a single graduate who supported Leave. 

Perhaps they wouldn't admit it to you, knowing how you would constantly batter them with 'reading the wrong paper', taking part in a referendum that you didn't agree with, the 'Bus' writing which you constantly mis-read and how dare they disagree with you. ;)

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9 minutes ago, Gambo said:

Perhaps they wouldn't admit it to you, knowing how you would constantly batter them with 'reading the wrong paper', taking part in a referendum that you didn't agree with, the 'Bus' writing which you constantly mis-read and how dare they disagree with you. ;)

No, they're openly critical of Brexit without me having anything to do with it.

Perhaps the reason the 'establishment' was wholeheartedly opposed to Brexit because they don't believe everything they read in the papers or misleading lies on the side of the bus, which is perhaps also why they're also predicted the outcome far better than the Brexiteers... :D

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37 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Maybe they voted based on their view of sovereignty, government and bureaucracy, rather than economics?

Well they certainly got the part about the bureaucracy and economics wrong, unless they actually wanted more bureaucracy and to be poorer... :rolleyes:

And as for 'sovereignty' - since Brexit the UK has seen the single biggest stripping of citizen rights in history, and the rolling out of a police state.

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3 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

No, they're openly critical of Brexit without me having anything to do with it.

Perhaps the reason the 'establishment' was wholeheartedly opposed to Brexit because they don't believe everything they read in the papers or misleading lies on the side of the bus, which is perhaps also why they're also predicted the outcome far better than the Brexiteers... :D

What was misleading about the sign on the bus?

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17 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

I didn't particularly ask them because - believe it or not - I don't generally discuss Brexit in the real world unless people ask me about it. I've seen one or two posting silly Brexit-related stuff, but most of us are from a very pro-Remain area where there is a substantial foreign population and the importance of EU trade is quite well understand. Unlike Swindon, we didn't vote to get rid of our car plant. :rolleyes:

What I can certainly say is that I don't think I know a single graduate who supported Leave. 

Around where I live was a very pro-leave area and also here is there is a substantial foreign population, which may have had a bearing on why so many voted that way! I also know some graduates who were strong advocates of voting Leave. We also don't generally discuss Brexit in our world (which is very real) because it's over and done with!

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2 hours ago, steve roberts said:

I recall an interview with a University student just after the referendum who said that within her group the vote was split and some didn't even bother voting after saying that they would...who have no doubt graduated now!

You'll always be able to find a random student to make some interesting headlines, and there will of course be the former agricultural colleges attended by the yeomanry where Brexit views may be more prevalent. 

But the fact remains that several studies with decent sample sizes have shown that 73% of all under-25s voted Remain. Other studies have also shown that over 90% of university personnel support Remain, so it's very likely that support for Remain would have been well over 90% amongst university students at the time. 

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17 minutes ago, Gambo said:

What was misleading about the sign on the bus?

It's been explained plenty of times, but the sign said "We send the EU 350 million a week" which was an outright lie. That's even before you get to the misleading part implying that the made-up figure would go to the NHS instead.

But you know that very well of course. 

 

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1 minute ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

You'll always be able to find a random student to make some interesting headlines, and there will of course be the former agricultural colleges attended by the yeomanry where Brexit views may be more prevalent. 

But the fact remains that several studies with decent sample sizes have shown that 73% of all under-25s voted Remain. Other studies have also shown that over 90% of university personnel support Remain, so it's very likely that support for Remain would have been well over 90% amongst university students at the time. 

...barely 3/4 then? As I keep saying there was also evidence that 1 in 4 people within the ages of 18 and 38 didn't register a vote...those most affected by the outcome of the referendum.

 

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