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3 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

Says the person who said the Fisheries Industry was insignificant :(

It was, but now it's even less significant thanks to Boris's blundering.

And to think fishing was the cause celebre of 'taking back control' upon which the City of London was sacrificed. You really couldn't make it up... :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Frankly it's a disgrace that such an important agreement should have had so little scrutiny. 

Just as the EU Parliament is doing now, there would have been plenty of time to consider the fine points had it been agreed months previously as it should have fine. But of course, Boris deliberately ran out the clock when everyone would be on their Christmas break, to try to hide the fact it was incompetently negotiated as the shellfish industry and others are now finding out. 

It of course sums up the general state of UK democracy though, that MPs allow the government to get away with such incredible incompetence no murmur at all.

So, the usual old patter. First a completely unsustainable point is made, then when challenged on it, there being no sensible, answer we deflect into a general but more arguable matter about the competence of MP’s and the general state of democracy , which contrary to popular belief never has never been particularly competent.

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Not sure of Humph’s credentials regarding running a multi-million pound import and export manufacturing business but here’s another industrial Titan championing Brexit:

Brexit has given the UK back its independence and boosted innovation, inventor Sir James Dyson has said. 

"We've got our freedom, we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe [and] we can employ people from all around the world," Sir James told the BBC.

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14 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Not sure of Humph’s credentials regarding running a multi-million pound import and export manufacturing business but here’s another industrial Titan championing Brexit:

Brexit has given the UK back its independence and boosted innovation, inventor Sir James Dyson has said. 

"We've got our freedom, we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe [and] we can employ people from all around the world," Sir James told the BBC.

I would say that qualifies as a very big load of BS. In real terms he is a traitor towards British Industry and manufacturing. 

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7 minutes ago, jrs said:

I would say that qualifies as a very big load of BS. In real terms he is a traitor towards British Industry and manufacturing. 

SO, you totally disregard all the people he employs in the UK, the taxes he and they pay and the excellent products that Dyson produce.

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1 hour ago, DC2 said:

"We've got our freedom, we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe [and] we can employ people from all around the world," Sir James told the BBC.

So which trade agreements would these be, and how much have they increased UK trade compared to the loss of trade with the EU? :rolleyes:

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6 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

So which trade agreements would these be, and how much have they increased UK trade compared to the loss of trade with the EU? :rolleyes:

What are we not trading with the EU at all now :unsure:

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1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

SO, you totally disregard all the people he employs in the UK, the taxes he and they pay and the excellent products that Dyson produce.

He employs about 3,000 people in the UK. Not insignificant, but half the number of people that lost their jobs at Honda and Ford.

Plus of course, the Dyson jobs were pre-existing rather than new ones, and Dyson themselves got rid of 600 jobs in the UK last year.

We'll have to disagree on the excellence of Dyson products. I personally think they're overpriced and overhyped, made of cheap materials and don't last particularly long. Mrs Appleby has been through 3 or 4 of their vacuums over 20 years, whereas I've had a Premiere vacuum that's solidly built, sucks better and is still going strong 25 years later. I also have a Vax which was about a third of the price of a Dyson and is certainly no worse.   

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2 minutes ago, Badge said:

What are we not trading with the EU at all now :unsure:

Shellfish fishermen certainly aren't... 

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1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

HERE'S another right wing rag link to rattle the cage of Remainers despite being written by one of their ilk ... 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9467867/RUTH-SUNDERLAND-pity-Remainers-proved-wrong-voted-stay.html

So exports to the EU are now half as bad as the truly disastrous figures from January, and this is rattling the cage of Remainers? If you say so... :rolleyes:

A Remainer writing for the Daily Mail... yes right. No doubt like Littlejohn is giving up his Spurs season ticket that he never uses... :D

Perhaps as you're trawling the rags for good news stories though, you could find one telling us about the trade figures for this extra trade we're supposed to be doing with 'the rest of the world'. Sunny uplands and all that...?

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9 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

He employs about 3,000 people in the UK. Not insignificant, but half the number of people that lost their jobs at Honda and Ford.

Plus of course, the Dyson jobs were pre-existing rather than new ones, and Dyson themselves got rid of 600 jobs in the UK last year.

We'll have to disagree on the excellence of Dyson products. I personally think they're overpriced and overhyped, made of cheap materials and don't last particularly long. Mrs Appleby has been through 3 or 4 of their vacuums over 20 years, whereas I've had a Premiere vacuum that's solidly built, sucks better and is still going strong 25 years later. I also have a Vax which was about a third of the price of a Dyson and is certainly no worse.   

DISAGREE? Whatever next? Agree?

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18 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Shellfish fishermen certainly aren't... 

Neither are maggot farmers and other fishing bait manufacturers, it's one step forward and two steps back at every stage...

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