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11 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

The UK was at war with the EU? That finished over 70 years ago, or didn't you notice that? :rolleyes:

Still, I suppose it'll be easy enough to convince you to go out to the fields to dig for victory now there's no Johnny Foreigner types to pick the potatoes... :D

Could have sworn that war was the EU against the EU.

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29 minutes ago, Phlipphlopp said:

Whats your point caller ? We all know the MO of the eu. Which , has nothing to do with our commonwealth friends and allies from India , and our friends from Honk Kong. You really do get mixed up these days , perhaps its travel lag eh ? Or BDS. :D

Not sure where Honk Kong is. Perhaps the token Chinese restaurant round your way...? :D

 

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2 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Not sure where Honk Kong is. Perhaps the token Chinese restaurant round your way...? :D

 

What seems to be your problem here ? Yes i know where Honk Kong is The nearest take away of any kind is 6 miles away from my place? You have serious issues.......

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On 4/25/2021 at 7:02 PM, PHILIPRISING said:

HARDLY worthy of comment ... just one person's (who probably no one has ever heard of) obviously prejudiced view and judging by his comment about Florida doesn't check his facts.

Time for this to be put to bed... I don't expect the usual subjects on here to share my admiration for Littlejohn's unique and amusing style and that's fine but I do seriously doubt that the likes of HA, Iris, falcace, et al have any real idea of what he actually pens.

It seems that my computer must be listening in on my conversations, as now I get Littlejohn popping up in my newsfeed. Spooky, but surprising that Philippe hasn't manage to post this over on the 'Police priorities' thread... :D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9538979/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Nicking-burglars-Not-line-duty-Guv.html

It is a good example of the nonsense he writes though, about "proper old-fashioned Dixon Of Dock Green coppers" as if the odds of Dixon plodding around Cockfosters, poking through Littlejohn's copious hedge and discovering a burglary in progress is highly likely... :rolleyes:

Then he has to bang on about Dixon disappearing to investigate hate crimes, only mentioning in passing that he moved into his current place 24 years ago, as if the cops bothered about such things in the 1990s. In fact, some of them were probably aiding-and-abetting them - see the Stephen Laurence case for details.

He then finds time to return to his favourite target of hate - lesbians and gays - who had absolutely nothing to do with his house being robbed. 

And you find this sort of stuff amusing? :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

It seems that my computer must be listening in on my conversations, as now I get Littlejohn popping up in my newsfeed. Spooky, but surprising that Philippe hasn't manage to post this over on the 'Police priorities' thread... :D

https://www.dailymail.VERY much so. co.uk/debate/article-9538979/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Nicking-burglars-Not-line-duty-Guv.html

It is a good example of the nonsense he writes though, about "proper old-fashioned Dixon Of Dock Green coppers" as if the odds of Dixon plodding around Cockfosters, poking through Littlejohn's copious hedge and discovering a burglary in progress is highly likely... :rolleyes:

Then he has to bang on about Dixon disappearing to investigate hate crimes, only mentioning in passing that he moved into his current place 24 years ago, as if the cops bothered about such things in the 1990s. In fact, some of them were probably aiding-and-abetting them - see the Stephen Laurence case for details.

He then finds time to return to his favourite target of hate - lesbians and gays - who had absolutely nothing to do with his house being robbed. 

And you find this sort of stuff amusing? :rolleyes:

VERY much so. What's wrong with spotlighting the fact that the police no longer investigate burglaries. And he didn't target lesbians and gays per se... just some of the dubious organisations that purport to represent them.

Fair comment ... "Burglary comes a long way down the list behind taking the knee in supplication to the Black Lives Matter mob; painting their nails in rainbow colours to show solidarity with the trans lobby; flying the LGBTQWERTY+ flag above HQ; skateboarding with climate change extremists; and making fatuous, self-serving statements on the steps of Scotland Yard about the murder of George Floyd thousands of miles away in another country."

You may disagree but I think you will find that millions do not which is probably one of the reasons why the Daily Mail is the top selling British newspaper and has more online readers than any other.

And, incidentally, presume you in favour of the French cutting powers supplies to Jersey?

 

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3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

You may disagree but I think you will find that millions do not which is probably one of the reasons why the Daily Mail is the top selling British newspaper and has more online readers than any other.

Hardly think it's millions. The Daily Mail has a circulation of well under 1 million these days and it's rapidly declining every year.

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And, incidentally, presume you in favour of the French cutting powers supplies to Jersey?

Are you in favour of the UK government playing silly buggers over licensing French fishing vessels in British waters as agreed under the Brexit Agreement? A bit like reneging on the Northern Ireland protocol and trying to re-classify Class B waters as Class A despite saying that food standards wouldn't be reduced post-Brexit.

Of course aging Daily Mail readers lap this sort of stuff up as they do Littlejohn, but the UK Government is not only embarrassing the country but undermining trust in it. Barnier probably sums it up accurately...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michel-barnier-brexit-book-johnson-b1842560.html

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7 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Hardly think it's millions. The Daily Mail has a circulation of well under 1 million these days and it's rapidly declining every year.

Are you in favour of the UK government playing silly buggers over licensing French fishing vessels in British waters as agreed under the Brexit Agreement? A bit like reneging on the Northern Ireland protocol and trying to re-classify Class B waters as Class A despite saying that food standards wouldn't be reduced post-Brexit.

Of course aging Daily Mail readers lap this sort of stuff up as they do Littlejohn, but the UK Government is not only embarrassing the country but undermining trust in it. Barnier probably sums it up accurately...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michel-barnier-brexit-book-johnson-b1842560.html

WHY do you consistently bring age into it... some of us might actually get wiser as we get older. Of course, all newspapers have declining sales but most, like the DM and indeed the Telegraph, have seen increases in their online readership.

It seems ridiculous to recall that the News of the World printed over four million copies at its peak but that was before the birth of the www.

Barnier also claimed that the EU's poor vaccine rate is due to the fact that 27 nations had to negotiate collectively and that the UK was in a much better position because of Brexit.

I wouldn't for a second suggest that the British government has handled Brexit pre and post perfectly but the French in particular seem to want a fight at any opportunity. 

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9 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Hardly think it's millions. The Daily Mail has a circulation of well under 1 million these days and it's rapidly declining every year.

 

The Mail brand including online has a reported readership of 8 million. The circulation of the printed version is reported to be a little over a million with an estimated readership of 2.2 million.  Philip is correct in stating that it is the top selling newspaper ( at least out those that disclose their circulation figures ) and has more online readers than any other. 

 

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1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

WHY do you consistently bring age into it... some of us might actually get wiser as we get older.

The ageing readership of the Daily Mail and especially Daily Express epitomises much of what's wrong with Britain today. Living in a bygone era that no longer exists, refusing to accept the world has changed, and even worse trying to turn back the clock at every opportunity. Not much wisdom there at all. 

The UK Government has consistently reneged on what it agreed to only within the past year, which not only has undermined trust in the whole UK, but is making the country the laughing stock of the world including the countries with whom it wants to make trade deals. Other EU countries (e.g. Ireland) may be more polite when they're slapped in the face, but the French certainly don't put up with injustice lying down. Something that the likes of the Daily Mail readers were applauding not that long ago when the Gilets Jaune were protesting against the EU etc... :rolleyes:

I think the most worrying thing is that Daily Mail readers can't be bothered to look beyond the headlines that appeal to their prejudices. Whenever there's disputes there's almost always two sides to the story, and you'd have thought journalists would be interested in that. 

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2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

Barnier also claimed that the EU's poor vaccine rate is due to the fact that 27 nations had to negotiate collectively and that the UK was in a much better position because of Brexit.

Now that the disaster of Brexit and the incompetence of the UK Government in negotiating a trade deal unfolds in all its glory, the EU's vaccine response is just about the only thing the Brexit brigade has to bang on about now. But the fact remains that the EU is now rapidly catching up, has vaccinated more people in total than the UK, and there's some EU countries that are on par if not even ahead of the UK. 

By the end of the year, the vaccine rows will be irrelevant and forgotten about, and the UK will still be faced with the harsh realities of the collapse of export markets in agriculture and fishing, not to mention a steep decline in financial trading. But let's pretend that Brittania still rules the waves by sending a couple of gunboats to Jersey against unarmed fishing boats, and a leaky aircraft carrier with defective aircraft to China. You couldn't make it up!

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15 minutes ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

 

The ageing readership of the Daily Mail and especially Daily Express epitomises much of what's wrong with Britain today. Living in a bygone era that no longer exists, refusing to accept the world has changed, and even worse trying to turn back the clock at every opportunity. Not much wisdom there at all. 

 By that bonkers line of reasoning the Sun which has the largest readership of under 35s must epitomise the value of the changing world.:rolleyes:

The fact is that almost all newspapers have a larger proportion of readers in the over middle age (over 35) age  group, as is also the case for radio listeners while the under 35’s rely primarily on the internet for news.

To quote one of the few sensible comments John Prescott ever uttered, “ Traditional Values in a modern setting “ . Despite your dismissal of anything from the past there are many things that are timeless, including a police force that actually comes round to investigate burglaries, respect  for other people’s property,  sportsmanship on the playing field, and dignified speech in reasonable English . It is the absence of such things that epitomise much of what’s wrong with Britain today.  Nothing wrong with any of those and other things in any era, past or present.

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1 hour ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

 

The ageing readership of the Daily Mail and especially Daily Express epitomises much of what's wrong with Britain today. Living in a bygone era that no longer exists, refusing to accept the world has changed, and even worse trying to turn back the clock at every opportunity. Not much wisdom there at all. 

The UK Government has consistently reneged on what it agreed to only within the past year, which not only has undermined trust in the whole UK, but is making the country the laughing stock of the world including the countries with whom it wants to make trade deals. Other EU countries (e.g. Ireland) may be more polite when they're slapped in the face, but the French certainly don't put up with injustice lying down. Something that the likes of the Daily Mail readers were applauding not that long ago when the Gilets Jaune were protesting against the EU etc... :rolleyes:

I think the most worrying thing is that Daily Mail readers can't be bothered to look beyond the headlines that appeal to their prejudices. Whenever there's disputes there's almost always two sides to the story, and you'd have thought journalists would be interested in that. 

POT and kettle spring to mind. When do you ever see two sides of a story? 

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1 hour ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Now that the disaster of Brexit and the incompetence of the UK Government in negotiating a trade deal unfolds in all its glory, the EU's vaccine response is just about the only thing the Brexit brigade has to bang on about now. But the fact remains that the EU is now rapidly catching up, has vaccinated more people in total than the UK, and there's some EU countries that are on par if not even ahead of the UK. 

By the end of the year, the vaccine rows will be irrelevant and forgotten about, and the UK will still be faced with the harsh realities of the collapse of export markets in agriculture and fishing, not to mention a steep decline in financial trading. But let's pretend that Brittania still rules the waves by sending a couple of gunboats to Jersey against unarmed fishing boats, and a leaky aircraft carrier with defective aircraft to China. You couldn't make it up!

Not quite

'Like an invasion': French military ship heads to Jersey in fishing row as Royal Navy patrols waters (msn.com)

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1 hour ago, E I Addio said:

 By that bonkers line of reasoning the Sun which has the largest readership of under 35s must epitomise the value of the changing world.:rolleyes:

Not really sure what your point is. 400,000 out of 28 million under-35s reading the Sun, probably mostly for the tittle tattle doesn't epitomise anything, and most will undoubtedly be getting their information from a variety of sources including the Internet.

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Despite your dismissal of anything from the past there are many things that are timeless, including a police force that actually comes round to investigate burglaries, respect  for other people’s property,  sportsmanship on the playing field, and dignified speech in reasonable English .

Where did I say otherwise, but the fact remains that Dixon plodding round on the beat when a lot if not most crimes have become mobile and technology based, is not an effective use of resources in the modern world, nor has anything to do with lesbians and gays. And frankly, racist and bigoted hate crimes - even if it's just online intimidation rather than physical violence - have become a scourge on society regardless of what the 'anti-politically-correct' brigade including Littlejohn might think. I absolutely think the perpetrators should be hunted down and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as if it's left to go unchecked, it emboldens others towards physical violence and even terrorism. 

But that require squads of youngish computer specialists aren't going to be interested in plodding round the streets feelin' the colla's of villains, who incidentally can also track down who's selling the stolen gear online. Littlejohn however, is just a dog whistle to those still living back in the 1950s who actually seem to believe there was never any crime back then... :rolleyes:

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Laughing stock of the world at this time is the EU and their vaccine rollout, it's making the news and being met with incredulity all over the world judging by the headlines.

They could almost have done it deliberately to underline the point leave voters have been trying to make for the past few years.

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