greyhoundp Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Really? Sorry if I left less impressed than you. Zach has flat-lined compared to last season. He is our #1 and at home that means he has to win races. He's not doing it nearly often enough. Hume looked like he was riding a bucking bronco in a couple of his races before he pulled a win out of the bag, Reidar Replacement - didn't score what Tom Perry would have scored. Darryl - par for the course and bags of effort for not enough reward. Jack Smith - reasonable showing and signs of improvement compared to the start of the season, albeit inconsistent JPB - Was overtaken too often. Are his bikes in need of some more power? He has the style and the confidence but seemingly down on horsepower. Arthur Daley - not fair to comment. BSPA - at the root of the Brummies problems. Fans want their riders to cheer for, even if they are only temporary. If we are going to be forced to field guests and RR all the time, we might as well go back to the EL. The Brummies are 3rd or 4th in the league material on this showing. I doubt if they will get away points at Eastbourne or Kent both of whom have scored league points at Perry Barr, and crucially, in 2-legged finals, both of those teams will ensure that the Brummies will get runners-up medals at best. I'm sure that it won't be long before someone else visits Perry Barr and has 60 points stuffed past them, and the Brummies will look like world beaters again, but when that happens, all it will show is the gulf in class between the top 3 or 4 teams in the NL and the bottom 3 or 4. I think you are being a tad harsh here UK M, you have a young Team, and they are bound to be inconsistent, yes you badly missed Perry rr scored what ? 5 points, and its pretty fair to say Bacon would probably have scored more than RTD. You will likely finish Top of the League as for 2 Leg Finals it all comes down to on the night, but probably you have a fairer Track to ride than the Two Teams that you mentioned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I wouldn't complain about waj he is second season speedway and is a solid number 1. 10 points is more than some of the other number 1s in the league and he is coping much better than I expected him to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Really? Sorry if I left less impressed than you. Zach has flat-lined compared to last season. He is our #1 and at home that means he has to win races. He's not doing it nearly often enough. Hume looked like he was riding a bucking bronco in a couple of his races before he pulled a win out of the bag, Reidar Replacement - didn't score what Tom Perry would have scored. Darryl - par for the course and bags of effort for not enough reward. Jack Smith - reasonable showing and signs of improvement compared to the start of the season, albeit inconsistent JPB - Was overtaken too often. Are his bikes in need of some more power? He has the style and the confidence but seemingly down on horsepower. Arthur Daley - not fair to comment. BSPA - at the root of the Brummies problems. Fans want their riders to cheer for, even if they are only temporary. If we are going to be forced to field guests and RR all the time, we might as well go back to the EL. The Brummies are 3rd or 4th in the league material on this showing. I doubt if they will get away points at Eastbourne or Kent both of whom have scored league points at Perry Barr, and crucially, in 2-legged finals, both of those teams will ensure that the Brummies will get runners-up medals at best. I'm sure that it won't be long before someone else visits Perry Barr and has 60 points stuffed past them, and the Brummies will look like world beaters again, but when that happens, all it will show is the gulf in class between the top 3 or 4 teams in the NL and the bottom 3 or 4. You nearly always come out with overly critical comments. Sometimes I wonder if you actually do want this Birmingham team to succeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I'm sorry as well catinthehat.this all took place out on the track. At no point did I say it happened in the pits. However this is a forum. You have your opinion and I have mine. If this was on the track as you say i have talked to one of the riders mechanics and at no point did perks start any of the the shouting he returned what ritchings started, then it was Ritchings who was the leader of the foul mouth followed by Perks. Ritchings then then tried to crash into Perks as the end of the race (ReRun) i am told that Martin Dugard went into the pits with Graham Dury to calm Ritchings down and have a quite word with him in the interest of the sport. So i guess the shouting was from both of them and the foul mouth was also from them both but insigated by Ritchings. But this was all following the crash who he was the unfortunate to be collected by Jack Smiths bike. But i guess tempers flare and i was also told that a lot of the fans were also swearing at Perks (including the Kids lol) so i guess the kids picked up the bad language quite quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Hope both teams are at full strength come the playoffs, whether that be riders coming back from injury or strengthening up at reserve etc as I imagine there won't be much between both teams home and away. Although perhaps Kent could have a say in proceedings, still convinced these 2 will be riding for the NL title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummiestormer Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 As i've said many times Eastbourne will win the NL over 2 legs this year against any team due to home track advantage.When all the jiggery pokery is done with line ups going into the play offs it's nailed on in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I think if we win it this year it'll be because of team spirit rather than home track advantage .Over the years Easties home advantage has always been counter balanced with poor away results because of the difference between our track and others. Be interesting to see the aggregate score in the league matches with Kent, think it'll be fairly even? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 If this was on the track as you say i have talked to one of the riders mechanics and at no point did perks start any of the the shouting he returned what ritchings started, then it was Ritchings who was the leader of the foul mouth followed by Perks. Ritchings then then tried to crash into Perks as the end of the race (ReRun) i am told that Martin Dugard went into the pits with Graham Dury to calm Ritchings down and have a quite word with him in the interest of the sport. So i guess the shouting was from both of them and the foul mouth was also from them both but insigated by Ritchings. But this was all following the crash who he was the unfortunate to be collected by Jack Smiths bike. But i guess tempers flare and i was also told that a lot of the fans were also swearing at Perks (including the Kids lol) so i guess the kids picked up the bad language quite quickly Was going to keep out of this but in the interests of Clarity. It was started by Perks on the track. ritchings reacted to what Perks said. Perks also acted in a way that I am not going to share that may have already wound people up at the end of the first running of the heat. Probably six of one and half a dozen of the other but definatley started by Perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 If this was on the track as you say i have talked to one of the riders mechanics and at no point did perks start any of the the shouting he returned what ritchings started, then it was Ritchings who was the leader of the foul mouth followed by Perks. Ritchings then then tried to crash into Perks as the end of the race (ReRun) i am told that Martin Dugard went into the pits with Graham Dury to calm Ritchings down and have a quite word with him in the interest of the sport. So i guess the shouting was from both of them and the foul mouth was also from them both but insigated by Ritchings. But this was all following the crash who he was the unfortunate to be collected by Jack Smiths bike. But i guess tempers flare and i was also told that a lot of the fans were also swearing at Perks (including the Kids lol) so i guess the kids picked up the bad language quite quickly Was going to keep out of this but in the interests of Clarity. It was started by Perks on the track. ritchings reacted to what Perks said. Perks also acted in a way that I am not going to share that may have already wound people up at the end of the first running of the heat. Probably six of one and half a dozen of the other but definatley started by Perks. Started by Perks driving the other three into the fence. Not surprising that Richings was angered! A man standing next to me, who seemed to be a new fan, commented on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Surely they should have shut off then rather than keep going? He was probably trying to move them out wide to let Powell through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Sadly Alex shutting off still makes the bike goes straight so its a no win situation. Sounds like a racing incident that happens up and down the country over the course of a season. The nature of the sport means that time to time people will end up in the fence. So a few toys have been thrown around & i doubt Christmas cards will be exchanged but its not exactly Hancock / Pedersen is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Sadly Alex shutting off still makes the bike goes straight so its a no win situation. Sounds like a racing incident that happens up and down the country over the course of a season. The nature of the sport means that time to time people will end up in the fence. So a few toys have been thrown around & i doubt Christmas cards will be exchanged but its not exactly Hancock / Pedersen is it. yes I guess so and I was going to say racing incident. It might be yet on the return to Arlington though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Started by Perks driving the other three into the fence. Not surprising that Richings was angered! A man standing next to me, who seemed to be a new fan, commented on this. I wasnt there so cant comment from a personal viewpoint, but was it all 4 Back ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Birmingham gifted Eastbourne a point by using a guest for Bacon and R/R for Perry, would expect someone like Drury to have more sense than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Birmingham gifted Eastbourne a point by using a guest for Bacon and R/R for Perry, would expect someone like Drury to have more sense than that. The original plan was Ayres for Perry and Bacon R/R but Ayres had food poisoning on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummiestormer Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 All i'm going to say is Perks has previous but you would expect the Eastie fans to back him wouldn't you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_art Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Birmingham gifted Eastbourne a point by using a guest for Bacon and R/R for Perry, would expect someone like Drury to have more sense than that. Do try to keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee jay Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 The original plan was Ayres for Perry and Bacon R/R but Ayres had food poisoning on the day. anybody else wondering if he was invited round to uncle lens for dinner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) anybody else wondering if he was invited round to uncle lens for dinner ?Surely he would only get his brothers packet rice if he went to uncle lens Edited June 4, 2016 by Al3x200 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I wasnt there so cant comment from a personal viewpoint, but was it all 4 Back ?. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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