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5 minutes ago, chunky said:

The problem is that there is no single answer.

When I look at action that has been taken around the world, there are so many different courses that have been taken. That also means it is difficult to pinpoint what does and doesn't help.

Thing is, so many decisions don't make any sense whatsoever! Regardless of what anyone may think, we DO need fresh air, and people still need to work, to look after family, and basically LIVE A LIFE etc.

In the UK, does it make sense to tell people to stay in the house, and not go out in the garden? Does it make sense to close garden centres as non-essential when people growing their own produce can really help the economy, and keep things on supermarket shelves? Why was fishing banned, when you can be out on your own away from people?

Why, in the US, was I advised to go out and exercise in a park, where others are? I like to walk in cemeteries, but they were closed! Most of the other people in there are already dead...

Why are items like toothbrushes deemed as non-essential, but you can still buy alcohol?

Why can "elite" sport carry on, but "non-elite" sport can't? 

You aren't allowed to visit and elderly relative who needs care, but you can mingle with people you don't know, in a store?

Nothing makes any sense...

 

What would your granny tell ye?

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The Department of Education (NI branch) chose 9.07 this morning to deliver their latest dictum that all PE lessons should now take place outside with no more than 15 pupils.

Seems strange that the class can be secure in their bubble all day long, but deemed too risky in the PE Hall which is 5 times bigger. 

 

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1 minute ago, salty said:

Seems strange that the class can be secure in their bubble all day long, but deemed too risky in the PE Hall which is 5 times bigger. 

 

Exactly...

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42 minutes ago, Vincent Blachshadow said:

So. No compulsory quarantine but the over 60 living with few precautions still runs the risk of rubbing up against the fit looking virus carrying 25 year old in their local co-op.

Isn't that where we are today in some areas?

Yes. That’s no different from now.

Anyone can shop in Co-op regardless of age and they are quite possibly rubbing shoulders with Covid carriers already.

The difference would be that a government supported quarantine would allow all over 60s to choose a government funded home delivery if they so wish rather than be at the mercy of supermarket availability as they now are.

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13 minutes ago, chunky said:

The problem is that there is no single answer.

When I look at action that has been taken around the world, there are so many different courses that have been taken. That also means it is difficult to pinpoint what does and doesn't help.

Thing is, so many decisions don't make any sense whatsoever! Regardless of what anyone may think, we DO need fresh air, and people still need to work, to look after family, and basically LIVE A LIFE etc.

In the UK, does it make sense to tell people to stay in the house, and not go out in the garden? Does it make sense to close garden centres as non-essential when people growing their own produce can really help the economy, and keep things on supermarket shelves? Why was fishing banned, when you can be out on your own away from people?

Why, in the US, was I advised to go out and exercise in a park, where others are? I like to walk in cemeteries, but they were closed! Most of the other people in there are already dead...

Why are items like toothbrushes deemed as non-essential, but you can still buy alcohol?

Why can "elite" sport carry on, but "non-elite" sport can't? 

You aren't allowed to visit and elderly relative who needs care, but you can mingle with people you don't know, in a store?

Nothing makes any sense...

 

You are entitled to go into your garden, and it is recommended.

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29 minutes ago, iris123 said:

I am with you 

I don’t think lockdown is the right measure at this stage, as I posted yesterday, an article from the States

But we have had DC2’s proposal to lock away the vulnerable on here months ago 

I don’t propose that.

I’ve suggested voluntary quarantine measures that are properly funded and supported as the best way of protecting the vulnerable, our economy and society in general (mental health and cancer operations etc).

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5 minutes ago, salty said:

The Department of Education (NI branch) chose 9.07 this morning to deliver their latest dictum that all PE lessons should now take place outside with no more than 15 pupils.

Seems strange that the class can be secure in their bubble all day long, but deemed too risky in the PE Hall which is 5 times bigger. 

 

Maybe because undertaking PE lessons could involve more breathing, so there is a chance that, doing it indoors could present more of a risk of aerosol transmission. 

In the olden days, one way around that would be to tell folk to, 'sit down, shut up and listen'. How times have changed. ;)

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5 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

You are entitled to go into your garden, and it is recommended.

Yeah, if you have a garden. ;)

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18 minutes ago, Tsunami said:

You are entitled to go into your garden, and it is recommended.

Earlier in the year, it wasn't - or so I was informed. A forum member said his mother was told to stay in the house, but she was allowed to have a window open!

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Just now, chunky said:

Earlier in the year, it wasn't - or so I was informed. A forum member said his mother was told to stay in the house, but she was allowed to have a window open!

Maybe she was on the top floor of a tower block?

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It's no coincidence that a lot of the sectors they're targeting a 2nd time are those where folks socialise, have fun and human to human contact.

Pubs, restaurants, sports clubs, cinemas, theatres etc.

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Just now, Wolfsbane said:

It's no coincidence that a lot of the sectors they're targeting a 2nd time are those where folks socialise, have fun and human to human contact.

Pubs, restaurants, sports clubs, cinemas, theatres etc.

Are you not getting it yet? ;)

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1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said:

Immunity doesn't mean you can't catch the virus again, immunity means that if and when you do catch it again, your immune system can deal with it and make it less severe. 

The word immunity gives it away. If you catch Covid again that means your not immune?

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3 minutes ago, Pieman72 said:

The word immunity gives it away. If you catch Covid again that means your not immune?

Reeto. 

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4 hours ago, chris4gillian said:

Follow the government law.  That's all everyone can do.  We don't have to agree with it, but we all have to follow it.

Unless your name is Dominic Cummings 

If he had the balls to resign when he broke the rules or the PM had fired  him because DC broke  the  rules. Then the general public would believe what the government say a hell of a lot more.

I'll predict now that the Murdoch owned Media will take great pride in reporting every transgression in this lock down but never mention its due to DC being a coward and BJ and the cabinet being members of the coward club too

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