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News from Sweden B) and some sort of explanation as to why excess deaths aren't higher. Which ties up with Denmark and Hamburg to some extent. Though I don't know what winter vomiting is and why the Covid measures should have lowered those deaths, seeing as we haven't had winter + Covid yet. But sure it is a dodgy translation. Pneumonia perhaps

Fewer than usual have died in Karlstad: Not entirely surprised

Three municipalities stand out in the statistics on the number of deaths during the current corona pandemic.

At the top is Karlstad, where fewer than usual died in 2020.

- I am not completely surprised, says Ingemar Hallén who is operations manager and infection control doctor in the Värmland Region.

The spread of covid-19 is increasing throughout Sweden and half of all regions are now working in staff mode, which Aftonbladet recently wrote about.

In the past week, 20 out of 21 counties have reported that the spread of infection is increasing, as is the pressure on healthcare when more and more corona-infected patients are admitted to the country's hospitals. 

Higher than average

That 2020 has been a gloomy year is probably something many people sign.

In some of the most affected municipalities - Stockholm, Södertälje, Botkyrka and Haninge - the number of deaths between January and October this year was 10-20 percent higher than the average for the previous five years, according to statistics from Statistics Sweden (SCB).

However, there are municipalities where mortality has been significantly lower.

Among the country's 25 largest municipalities, three stand out in particular - Karlstad , Lund and Malmö. Fewer people died there in 2020 than at the same time in the last five years.

"Avoided part of the top"

Among other things, this is due to the fact that the municipalities to some extent managed to avoid the peak in mortality that occurred during the spring.

- Karlstad avoided some of that peak in May while Lund and Malmö ducked it completely in April. As a result, these municipalities did not escape the pandemic completely during the spring, but did not reach the peak levels seen in Stockholm, for example, says Tomas Johansson, population statistician at Statistics Sweden, and continues:

- A large part of the mortality in Karlstad and Lund is linked to September and October, while there were a few more deaths in Malmö during the same period.

At the same time, increased infection control measures have helped to reduce other diseases, such as seasonal flu and winter vomiting.

"Not completely surprised"

Ingemar Hallén is operations manager and infection control doctor in the Värmland Region.

He is not entirely surprised by the result, as Värmland has generally had a comparatively low spread of infection, both during the spring, summer and so far during the autumn, according to him.

- However, the number of cases has increased sharply in the last month here as well. Until week 44, Karlstad has, from our perspective, had a medium spread of infection. But the number of cases in municipal health and care in the county has during that time been very few, which I think is due to the fact that the general spread of infection has not been so great and that we have had a good job in health and care together with infection control.

Disappeared quickly

When asked what led to the success of the death toll, Ingemar Hallén points out that it is difficult to know for sure:

- But I think that active infection tracing work combined with home insulation of household and close contacts during the start of the pandemic in March contributed to us not getting such a large spread. When various advice and recommendations from the Swedish Public Health Agency were then implemented, the initial situation was relatively good here, and it was clear that the flu cases disappeared quickly. So it was clearly a time relationship and probably a causal relationship.

- Another success factor, I think, is that we are a relatively small region with good networks and cooperation with each other.

What does the work look like in the future to keep the death toll down?

- It is still about keeping the spread of infection in society and especially preventing it from happening among the elderly and in municipal health and care. In addition, the identification of cases has improved and so has the treatment of severe covid-19, which should contribute to a lower mortality rate.

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An update re my research project test

Email received informing me that my test kit will be collected between 2.45 and 4.45 today (just 2 days later than booked!!)

Two big problems - no one will be there to give it to the courier (if they even bother to attempt collection) and having sat in the fridge for 2 extra days is it even in a suitable condition to be tested if by some miracle it found it's way to the lab.....

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Some good news......:blink:

Now where the vaccine against the coronavirus is imminent, we should prepare ourselves for the next pandemic.

“We already know where it comes from: multi-resistant bacteria. It is already a major problem and at some point it will explode, ”said Kenneth Roth, director of Human Rights Watch, one of the world's largest human rights organizations with offices in 90 countries.

Human Rights Watch has been strongly involved in dealing with the corona and upcoming pandemics. Kenneth Roth sees the authorities' handling of pandemics as a human rights problem because the diseases threaten the basic rights to life and health.

 
 
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4 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said:

An update re my research project test

Email received informing me that my test kit will be collected between 2.45 and 4.45 today (just 2 days later than booked!!)

Two big problems - no one will be there to give it to the courier (if they even bother to attempt collection) and having sat in the fridge for 2 extra days is it even in a suitable condition to be tested if by some miracle it found it's way to the lab.....

All going swimmingly well then...:)

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5 minutes ago, iris123 said:

Some good news......:blink:

Now where the vaccine against the coronavirus is imminent, we should prepare ourselves for the next pandemic.

“We already know where it comes from: multi-resistant bacteria. It is already a major problem and at some point it will explode, ”said Kenneth Roth, director of Human Rights Watch, one of the world's largest human rights organizations with offices in 90 countries.

Human Rights Watch has been strongly involved in dealing with the corona and upcoming pandemics. Kenneth Roth sees the authorities' handling of pandemics as a human rights problem because the diseases threaten the basic rights to life and health.

 
 

Uncle Bill did say the next one would get our full attention...:)

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2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Has anyone read the cry of the wolf pages, not so much conspiracy theory, it’s more serious accusations against high ranking politicians and police, while it’s a quite an interesting read it surely can’t real ? The thing is it’s been around quite a few years, has over 24,000 members and the fact checkers don’t seem interested in it even though named people are being accused of the worst crimes and it’s seemingly not challenged by the police or anybody named in it, they claim to get their info from whistleblowers in the Freemasons, it’s bizzare 

Well, hers one to think about.    A long established group, founded by Michael Heseltine among others, ostensibly to assist business relationships with China. Nothing unusual about that. BUT why did they go to court to get a book about them banned if there was nothing to hide, why did they take their website down , when it was all going on but in particular why did Jack Straw say he'd never heard of them when he was at a dinner where Heseltine presented him with a fellowship on behalf of the group ?  And how come Jack Straw suddenly remembered receiving the fellowship from Heseltine when photographic evidence surfaced  ?

 48 Group Club: why China is ‘grooming’ Britain’s business and political elite | The Week UK

There may be nothing in it but given Chinas growing influence over here it seems to smell a bit.

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How can we possibly  be expected to reach a decision without the views of DC2 and the Salop sage, and a graph from the wilds of Suffolk . The Dean Machine will certainly need to tell us what dark forces are afoot

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16 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England   178   38269

Scotland  0   (3503)

Wales  9   (2385)

NI  3  (936)

Blimey, that’s really low.

And with the two week lag it predates the lockdown!

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2 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Blimey, that’s really low.

And with the two week lag it predates the lockdown!

Be a lot higher tomorrow- last Monday 212, Monday before 186

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3 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Be a lot higher tomorrow- last Monday 212, Monday before 186

Yes, I know.

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2 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Yes, I know.

For gods sake just wait for a graph from Suffolk

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6 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Exactly- not really low for a Monday.

It’s low on the basis that deaths were supposed to be “escalating exponentially” into the lockdown!

Allowing for the lag, today should have been the peak Monday with more than 500 deaths, but it’s way short of that.

It looks like the lockdown wasn’t justified.

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34 minutes ago, wealdstone said:

How can we possibly  be expected to reach a decision without the views of DC2 and the Salop sage, and a graph from the wilds of Suffolk . The Dean Machine will certainly need to tell us what dark forces are afoot

And Iris will translate it into Swedish and back, muddle it up, apply it to some regions but not others, give it a bit of spin and copy and paste it as gobbledegook. :D 

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