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Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

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12 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

I'm sure if aboard the sinking Titanic you'd be saying it's an illusion and would eventually upright itself! :)

Only if Captain Trump was in charge ... :D

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3 minutes ago, HenryW said:

:t: I should have checked to see if anyone else had looked at the data before wasting time doing it myself. :unsure:

Shows how accurate your assessment was though :t:

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1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England  386   51437

Scotland    Not reported today   (4578)

Wales  56   (3620)

NI  6   (1354)

Total  448 - last Sunday 301

All UK Covid 19 deaths reported today- Hospital 448 other  6   total  454

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BBC on Covid in Primary Schools:

“All the evidence so far suggests primary school children have one of the lowest levels of infection when it comes to symptomatic cases. 

If you include asymptomatic infection the picture changes, but the evidence suggests such cases are less likely to lead to onward spread.

And, of course, the risk of serious illness in this group is pretty rare.”

Very few symptomatic cases.

More asymptomatic cases, but they are less likely to be transmitted.

Rare for them to be seriously ill.

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Last 14  weeks DAILY 7 DAY AVE all UK HOSPITAL AND OTHER   Covid 19 reported deaths( taken from the daily figures i quote

W/E October 4th  43  other 9 total 52

W/E October 11th 58 other 10 total 68

W/E October 18th 82  other  35 total 117

W/E October 25th 149   other  30  total  179

W/E November 1st 214  other 46 total 260

W/E November 8th 272 other  60    total 332

W/E November 15th 331 other   80    total   413

W/E November 22nd  355  other   87       total  442

W/E November 29th  357 other 103    total  460

W/E December 6th  345  other  84        total 429

W/E December 13th  332  other  88    total  420 

W/E December 20th  369 other    93    total  462

W/E December 27th 392  other   82       total  474

W/E January 3rd  478   other  126      total  604

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3 minutes ago, DC2 said:

BBC on Covid in Primary Schools:

“All the evidence so far suggests primary school children have one of the lowest levels of infection when it comes to symptomatic cases. 

If you include asymptomatic infection the picture changes, but the evidence suggests such cases are less likely to lead to onward spread.

And, of course, the risk of serious illness in this group is pretty rare.”

Very few symptomatic cases.

More asymptomatic cases, but they are less likely to be transmitted.

Rare for them to be seriously ill.

Extremely rare and practically zero in healthy children. Influenza is a much bigger threat to that age group.

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The problem is the government create the fear by saying that the new strain is highly infectious and more likely to effect younger people, to further their agenda

Then they start saying schools are safe, to make sure Children go back

They then wonder why parents and teachers, who believed their propaganda, don't want children to go back 

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6 hours ago, iris123 said:

The article didn’t really make sense nor explain what was happening. It just said they found schools were a place a major infection, but it seemed mainly or wholly teachers were infected. 

In other places it seems pupils have been seen to be spreading it. But the measures have varied from closing schools down, to sending whole years home or just classes. In my sons case it was just a few pupils who were close friends of someone who’s mother was infected.....luckily or not in my sons case he only had to stay home a day :D

A supplement to my post, although in the UK rather than Sweden

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/symptomless-cases-schools-key-driver-spread-covid-19?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0U94j71Rtr-WIbZUCXQUyIqfY_rkF5DXX_QlIAAggFoxe72mHeH5eteFM#Echobox=1609661575

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1 hour ago, Vincent Blachshadow said:

I accept they're not necessarily the most truthful of governments but this isn't necessarily a government topic. We believe they had the bug (on purpose maybe), we believe their lockdowns but we stop believing when they say how effective their lockdowns were?

All depends on an agenda really how much one believes.

 

It’s not one’s “agenda” that provides a basis for scepticism, it’s China’s track record for suppressing any message it does not wish to be released.

The Chinese government clearly wishes to reassure its people and the world at large that it is in control and its measures are effective.

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10 minutes ago, iris123 said:

In short, it says asymptomatic cases can transmit the disease and amount to

30 to 40% in adults

50% in teenagers

70% in younger children

But where does that leave us in terms of suppressing transmission?

Even if we lock up every adult they are still at risk of transmission from their children, with whom they have the closest contact.

So 50% of the population isn’t protected from infection by lockdowns that do not include closing schools.

It’s daft.

 

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Is it Bournemouth beaches, pubs, parties and raves that drive infection?

Or schools?

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