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Just now, DC2 said:

Is it Bournemouth beaches, pubs, parties and raves that drive infection?

Or schools?

Does it have to be one or the other and not a bit of all ?

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59 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

Only if Captain Trump was in charge ... :D

No chance then...into the abiss forever and never seen again! ;)

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34 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

The problem is the government create the fear by saying that the new strain is highly infectious and more likely to effect younger people, to further their agenda

Then they start saying schools are safe, to make sure Children go back

They then wonder why parents and teachers, who believed their propaganda, don't want children to go back 

...and yet these same parents were quite happy to travel from a high risk area to a less so and take their kids into a an attraction that is in a confined space underground as is the attraction that I work at in York which was the case prior to York going into Tier Three.

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4 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

No chance then...into the abiss forever and never seen again! ;)

Followed by the clown Johnson :D

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29 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

The problem is the government create the fear by saying that the new strain is highly infectious and more likely to effect younger people, to further their agenda

Then they start saying schools are safe, to make sure Children go back

They then wonder why parents and teachers, who believed their propaganda, don't want children to go back 

I am starting to think it a good idea not to send small children back to school, what are they actually learning from Hilters foot soldiers? ;)

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1 minute ago, iris123 said:

Does it have to be one or the other and not a bit of all ?

It obviously is a bit of both, although much less so for outside activities.

But one is demonised and the other is not.  

There should be an honest and fairer perspective.  

If our government believed in personal responsibility it could be the case that:

parents with children at school should be advised that that is the maximum risk they should take; and

adults without children should be allowed to choose a similar degree of risk from another source (pub) if they wish.

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1 minute ago, DC2 said:

It obviously is a bit of both, although much less so for outside activities.

But one is demonised and the other is not.  

There should be an honest and fairer perspective.  

If our government believed in personal responsibility it could be the case that:

parents with children at school should be advised that that is the maximum risk they should take; and

adults without children should be allowed to choose a similar degree of risk from another source (pub) if they wish.

I don't know sometimes.....I am sure it has been explained enough that some things are essential and others not so.

Generally going to the beach isn't one of the essential things in society. Most people can get a bit of fresh air and sun in their garden or balcony etc. We have had tv stations up in arms this weekend as ski areas in Germany have been packed. One of the main car parks for the only snowy mountainous area in the North was packed at 9 this morning, despite pleas yesterday not to travel as it was packed. And that was despite pleas the day before not to travel....

It shouldn't be about 'my next door neighbour has school kids, so has a bit of risk, so how can I get my bit of risk?' The theory at least is how can we reduce to a minimum the amount of risk we encounter

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27 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Is it Bournemouth beaches, pubs, parties and raves that drive infection?

Or schools?

Hospitals ... 

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20 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

...and yet these same parents were quite happy to travel from a high risk area to a less so and take their kids into a an attraction that is in a confined space underground as is the attraction that I work at in York which was the case prior to York going into Tier Three.

But York was in tier 2 and they were told they could go.

Again they believed the propaganda

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5 minutes ago, iris123 said:

I don't know sometimes.....I am sure it has been explained enough that some things are essential and others not so.

Generally going to the beach isn't one of the essential things in society. Most people can get a bit of fresh air and sun in their garden or balcony etc. We have had tv stations up in arms this weekend as ski areas in Germany have been packed. One of the main car parks for the only snowy mountainous area in the North was packed at 9 this morning, despite pleas yesterday not to travel as it was packed. And that was despite pleas the day before not to travel....

It shouldn't be about 'my next door neighbour has school kids, so has a bit of risk, so how can I get my bit of risk?' The theory at least is how can we reduce to a minimum the amount of risk we encounter

Yes, I understand that, provided you think it is acceptable for the government to make these choices for the population.

Take the old person who socialised in pubs, lockdowns may mean he lives out his final days in isolation.  He has no say in the matter.  Instead he could balance his risk by going to the pub but having his shopping delivered.

And would it not be more effective to have shorter lockdowns with schools closed, particularly in January, with a view to them being open in July and August?

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31 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

I am starting to think it a good idea not to send small children back to school, what are they actually learning from Hilters foot soldiers? ;)

Probably that Chairman Mao was a damn good egg who loved his people

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40 minutes ago, DC2 said:

If our government believed in personal responsibility it could be the case that:

parents with children at school should be advised that that is the maximum risk they should take; and

adults without children should be allowed to choose a similar degree of risk from another source (pub) if they wish.

But isn't that gonna end up, if it's good for the goose and so on?

'Personal Responsibility',,, ya having a laugh aren't ye??? ;)

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1 hour ago, The Third Man said:

But York was in tier 2 and they were told they could go.

Again they believed the propaganda

...but not travelling from Tier Three and Four as we had putting potentialy at risk those in Tier Two.

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Drakefords lockdown going well.Not moved the one car for 3 weeks so took it out this afternoon for a few hours.Roads were like a normal busy Sunday and didn't see one Police car in 2 hours.

 

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