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Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

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1 minute ago, Crumpet82 said:

If only his brain was 8% effective. :rolleyes:

It would still beat you by about 7.9% :D

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Only 20,089 cases announced today, a fall of 66% since the peak a couple of weeks ago.

Obviously not due to lockdown after its failure in November.

But due to schools being closed.

The government and the media though will laud the former and fudge the latter.

 

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20 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Only 20,089 cases announced today, a fall of 66% since the peak a couple of weeks ago.

Obviously not due to lockdown after its failure in November.

But due to schools being closed.

The government and the media though will laud the former and fudge the latter.

 

10,044 and a half actually.

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Anyone come across any crazy lockdown excuses for travelling or being in groups, here are some from the Dorset area (article in Bournemouth Echo)

 

"Dorset Police have stopped a number of people, both locals and visitors, who have breached those rules.

 

These are the seven most ridiculous reasons people have given for breaching Covid regulations:

 
  • Someone who moved to their second home in rural Dorset from London because the internet is better
  • A person who travelled to Dorset because the sea air is better for them
  • Someone who was stopped while they were going out for a drive because they were bored
  • A person who was caught travelling to Romsey from Dorset for an MOT
  • A group of men met up from mixed households in north Dorset to go fishing in West Bay because they were bored and thought it was okay as they worked together
  • A person was who travelled from Basingstoke to Weymouth to buy something advertised for sale on Facebook - they assumed it was under “click and collect” legislation
  • A Medium who assumed it was ok to run their business from home inviting multiple people for group readings"
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14 hours ago, Wolfsbane said:

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If you were to summarise Solzhenitsyn's acceptance speech for the 1970 Nobel Prize for Literature , instead of a short quote that emphases the obvious, it would advance the quality of the discussion on this thread immeasurably, as it is the antithesis of making a point by shoot-from-the-hip Twitter quotes.   

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15 hours ago, DC2 said:

100,000 Covid deaths being lamented today.  Quite rightly so.

But how about the other 500,000 non-Covid deaths?  Don’t they matter?

Do we ever, in December or January, have a National mourning of the 600,000 or so people who die every year?  Every one of them loved as much.

Spot on there is no balance or perspective. Only covid matters. WHY??????

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Was an interesting discussion (for a change) on tv last night about patent rights in a pandemic.

After Merck stated they are abandoning development of their vaccines, which have failed to produce good results and problems elsewhere in France etc, it was talked about is it right that one or two companies can fill their boots when tens of  thousands are in danger and countries can't get supplies of vaccines. Read earlier that poor countries might only get a vaccine in 2024 !!! Should patent rights be annulled at such times and other productions plants be allowed to produce the vaccine as well ? But then again, hey did have to admit that it was the race to get a vaccine out that probably focused teams more

But basically the world is on hold until enough people can get vaccinated and production is sluggish

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Sweden approaching herd immunity. There is another way...

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The BBC yesterday produced a chart saying the UK was second in the world to Portugal in Covid deaths per million people.

I thought, when did Portugal get so bad and overtake not only the UK but Belgium also?

But, of course, the BBC was wrong.

Portugal has 1,082 deaths per million, the UK about 1,470, and Belgium 1,797.

Portugal isn’t even in the top fifteen in Europe!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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14 minutes ago, DC2 said:

The BBC yesterday produced a chart saying the UK was second in the world to Portugal in Covid deaths per million people.

I thought, when did Portugal get so bad and overtake not only the UK but Belgium also?

But, of course, the BBC was wrong.

Portugal has 1,082 deaths per million, the UK about 1,470, and Belgium 1,797.

Portugal isn’t even in the top fifteen in Europe!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Where does it get this information from DC? It would be interesting to see it's source.

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Can't say what the BBC said or didn't say. But I think the rate in Portugal in recent weeks is sky high, as it is in Ireland. Portugal and Sweden are basically similar population and similar death rates

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4 minutes ago, dj350z said:

Where does it get this information from DC? It would be interesting to see it's source.

Vox Political Critiques BBC's Repeat of Tory Lies on NHS | Beastrabban\'s  Weblog

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