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12 minutes ago, Leicester Hunter said:

Well, I don't watch TV at the moment, mainly because my set is rather ancient and it gave up the ghost before Christmas. I've no intention of replacing it yet with so much crap being churned out by the various news outlets and indeed, 'programme makers'.

The sad thing is though, for some people it's company and until recent times was something of a comfort. It can't be either of those things now with the continual barrage of doom, gloom and negativity being beamed directly into peoples' homes.

Well, if you do replace your telly, be wary of 'smart tellys',,, cos they know what your watching, so they could be watching you!!!,,, 'smart tellys' alright. ;)

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SAGE are not your friends...

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Cases in South Dakota have completely collapsed. No lockdown, no mask mandate. There is another way...

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2 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Surely this is from Germany?

How come Iris hasn’t picked it up?

Or is he ignoring it?  :D

Unlike you I guess again....I do go out now and again B)

But it isn't a one off thing. There have been hundreds of challenges in court to different parts of lockdown here, by hairdressers, holiday makers and all sorts. That is the good thing about the process. You can challenge things and sometimes things get changed or put off......the grounding of the court decision is a new one though and it seems will be challenged as some of these court decisions are

https://www.mdr.de/thueringen/mitte-west-thueringen/weimar/amtsgericht-urteil-fragwuerdig-verwaltungsgerichtshof-bayern-corona-demo-querdenken-100.html

here is one from a holiday maker that was rejected

https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.urteil-in-baden-wuerttemberg-eilantrag-von-urlauber-gegen-corona-verordnung-abgewiesen.bb762523-2cf2-480e-ac56-d27506fc96b8.html

one from a fitness studio also rejected

https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Schliessung-von-Fitnessstudios-in-Hamburg-ist-rechtmaessig,fitnessstudios122.html

one in Bavaria that was successful in saying people could travel more than the stated 15 km radius from their home

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-15-kilometer-regel-gericht-100.html

There have been a number that were successful. Some only for a short time until the government won,a lot lost. Here is states 370 such cases

https://www.etl-rechtsanwaelte.de/aktuelles/erste-gerichtsentscheidungen-zum-coronavirus

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14 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

There is another way...

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Sometimes it's best to just think inside the box.  ;)

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18 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

Sometimes it's best to just think inside the box.  ;)

This governments brains would fit inside a matchbox...

Spelling edit courtesy of ruff...:)

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4 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

This governments brains wouldn't fit inside a matchbox...

Do you not mean 'would' fit inside a matchbox? ;)

Even a big bumper caravan box.

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1 minute ago, ruffdiamond said:

Do you not mean 'would' fit inside a matchbox? ;)

Yes, thanks for keeping me on my toes...:D

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18 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

Yes, thanks for keeping me on my toes...:D

Well, no slacking,,, keep up the good work! :t:

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2 hours ago, iris123 said:

Unlike you I guess again....I do go out now and again B)

But it isn't a one off thing. There have been hundreds of challenges in court to different parts of lockdown here, by hairdressers, holiday makers and all sorts. That is the good thing about the process. You can challenge things and sometimes things get changed or put off......the grounding of the court decision is a new one though and it seems will be challenged as some of these court decisions are

https://www.mdr.de/thueringen/mitte-west-thueringen/weimar/amtsgericht-urteil-fragwuerdig-verwaltungsgerichtshof-bayern-corona-demo-querdenken-100.html

here is one from a holiday maker that was rejected

https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.urteil-in-baden-wuerttemberg-eilantrag-von-urlauber-gegen-corona-verordnung-abgewiesen.bb762523-2cf2-480e-ac56-d27506fc96b8.html

one from a fitness studio also rejected

https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/Schliessung-von-Fitnessstudios-in-Hamburg-ist-rechtmaessig,fitnessstudios122.html

one in Bavaria that was successful in saying people could travel more than the stated 15 km radius from their home

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-15-kilometer-regel-gericht-100.html

There have been a number that were successful. Some only for a short time until the government won,a lot lost. Here is states 370 such cases

https://www.etl-rechtsanwaelte.de/aktuelles/erste-gerichtsentscheidungen-zum-coronavirus

 

Regardless, do you dispute the findings of the judge

that lockdown has caused (and will cause) many more deaths than it prevented,

that the death rate of Covid is 0.23%, 

that cases were at their highest in March before measures were brought in, and

that it was the seasonal decline of the virus rather than lockdown that caused it to recede?

We now have judges, not conspiracy theorists, finding these points to be facts.

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9 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Regardless, do you dispute the findings of the judge

that lockdown has caused (and will cause) many more deaths than it prevented,

that the death rate of Covid is 0.23%, 

that cases were at their highest in March before measures were brought in, and

that it was the seasonal decline of the virus rather than lockdown that caused it to recede?

We now have judges, not conspiracy theorists, finding these points to be facts.

As I said, the findings are being disputed and will I guess end up in court again and a decision will be made. That is the way things go, just ask Blu with all those court cases Trumps team made..as I said there are at least 370 court cases questioning the governments measures. Some win, mot lose. And we can certainly expect many more in the near future if and when certain things are found with the vaccine. If it comes out that people who are vaccinated can't pass on the virus then I am sure there will be court cases asking why they are still being made to lockdown etc

That is the way things work here. Every measure the government makes can and normally is challenged. We even had the discussion from at least one political party that the measures should be discussed in parliament..... We have had a number of cases where the government lost, generally temporary and then had another case where they won. We will just have to wait to see how this pans out, because it hasn't ended with one judge's decision

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17 hours ago, Blupanther said:

Flu has essentially disappeared in the US for the first time in a million years. Experts say this is because people are wearing masks. The same experts also say covid19 is spreading because people aren't wearing masks...

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17 hours ago, iris123 said:

Is it not that Covid 19 is the dominant corona virus around this time ? Just as each year there is a corona virus 

And it seems that in Sweden they agree with me......just a wonder that anyone else couldn't see the obvious :rolleyes:

 

 

The number of cases of winter vomiting at this time of year in Sweden is the lowest since data on the disease began to be collected, according to the Swedish Public Health Agency.

This is the clearest evidence that the measures against the spread of the coronavirus are being complied with, reports Vetenskapsradion.

Influenza and cold viruses have also decreased, the reason for this is both the virus measures, but also that these types of respiratory viruses may instead have been outcompeted by the coronavirus.

This does not apply to winter vomiting disease, explains Tomas Bergström, who is a professor of clinical microbiology at the Sahlgrenska Academy.

There are probably measures such as washing your hands and keeping hygiene more crucial.

- It is a completely different organ system, it is the gastrointestinal tract. And they should not compete with each other as much as, for example, flu and cold viruses compete with covid-19 and vice versa, he says to Vetenskapsradion

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