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2 hours ago, Blupanther said:

The PCR testing scamdemic on the BBC...:)

 

Wow, unbelievable!

Old news. This was discussed on here nine months or more ago only our scenario was a car crash with the head ending up ten yards away from the body.

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9 minutes ago, Vincent Blachshadow said:

Wow, unbelievable!

Old news. This was discussed on here nine months or more ago only our scenario was a car crash with the head ending up ten yards away from the body.

The 60 day figure, as explained in the BMJ, is still active. 'Old' does not mean its not relevant...

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1 hour ago, Blupanther said:

PHE’s analysis showed that 88% of deaths from covid-19 in England occurred within 28 days of a positive test result, while 96% occurred within 60 days or had covid-19 on the death certificate. As a result, rather than counting anyone who had ever tested positive as a covid associated death, PHE will now use two definitions of death with covid-19 in England.

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3220

 

In that case, the death numbers given are even more ludicrous than I thought.

I would have thought that the true figure should be yhe number who have covid-19 on the death certificate and nothing more.

Surely there is a way that this figure can be calculated rather than the random numbers we are given.

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24 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

The 60 day figure, as explained in the BMJ, is still active. 'Old' does not mean its not relevant...

Yes, it is true that PHE publishes two different figures.

But the government’s official figure is the 28 day one.

The ONS on the other hand includes citations on death certificates rather than solely on 28 day tests.

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Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England    522    80115

Scotland   64    (6828)

Wales  30   (5175)

NI   6   (2015)

Total   622    - last  Wednesday  739

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Anyone remember the covid cult getting hysterical over people on the beaches...:rolleyes:

 

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1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England    522    80115

Scotland   64    (6828)

Wales  30   (5175)

NI   6   (2015)

Total   622    - last  Wednesday  739

All UK Covid 19 deaths reported today- Hospital  522  other   216    total    738    ( last Wednesday 1001)

1st dose vaccinations     15.9 M

2nd dose   558,000

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Last 20  weeks DAILY 7 DAY AVE all UK HOSPITAL AND OTHER   Covid 19 reported deaths( taken from the daily figures i quote

W/E October 4th  43  other 9 total 52

W/E October 11th 58 other 10 total 68

W/E October 18th 82  other  35 total 117

W/E October 25th 149   other  30  total  179

W/E November 1st 214  other 46 total 260

W/E November 8th 272 other  60    total 332

W/E November 15th 331 other   80    total   413

W/E November 22nd  355  other   87       total  442

W/E November 29th  357 other 103    total  460

W/E December 6th  345  other  84        total 429

W/E December 13th  332  other  88    total  420 

W/E December 20th  369 other    93    total  462

W/E December 27th 392  other   82       total  474

W/E January 3rd  478   other  126      total  604

W/E January 10th 712  other   197    total  909

W/E January 17th  876   other    243    total  1119

W/E January 24th  899   other  341      total  1240

W/E January  31st  871  other   303      total 1174

W/E February 7th  692   other    209      total  901

W/E February 14th  514  other   158       total   672

This week(Mon/Wed)   471  other   118     total  589

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Is it all going breast up in Sweden ?

Seems tougher measures have been introduced in Gotland as they face a worrying situation and in Stockholm infections have risen 24% in one week !!

And this report in a German paper today

 

Stockholm -
For a long time they followed the “Swedish special route”, not relying on official bans, but on recommendations. And for a long time the citizens were satisfied with their government. But the price is high: after a hard second wave, almost 12,500 people have now died of Corona in the Scandinavian country - and the mood in the population is starting to change.

In autumn it still looked good: Despite fewer corona restrictions, there were only a few new infections, some even believed that Sweden would be spared a strong second wave. But it came - and it was severe: around 7,500 new infections per day were reported at peak times in January - and that with only around ten million inhabitants. The numbers have been falling again since mid-January.

Corona: Swedish special way failed In view of many, especially elderly, deaths, King Carl XVI. Gustaf declared the country's corona strategy "failed" in December. Now the state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has also admitted mistakes: The number of asymptomatic corona cases in Sweden was overestimated, he said in front of the Oxford Union, a debating club of the British university of the same name. The Swiss “Blick” and the British “Telegraph” quote from the conversation

It was wrongly assumed that many of the Covid 19 sufferers showed no symptoms - but still developed immunity. The result: Tegnell believed that many more Swedes were immune to Corona than was the case - and assumed that the second wave would hit the country much more easily. "That has not proven to be correct, because the immunity in the population has developed much, much lower than someone expected from the beginning," quotes him "Blick". Now Tegnell thinks that herd immunity cannot be achieved without a vaccine. Sweden: People's confidence is falling Does this insight come too late? According to an “Ipsos” survey, the population's trust in the Corona policy has already fallen sharply: In October 2020, 72 percent of Swedes had “great trust” in Tegnell, now it is only 54 percent. Even the Prime Minister Stefan Löfven does not come off well in the survey: Only 26 percent think the Prime Minister is doing well.

The frustration of many Swedes is also reflected in the public debate, the tone of which is getting sharper. As the "Spiegel" reports, Jonas Ludvigsson, pediatrician and professor of epidemiology, now wants to withdraw from the public, and he even wants to end his research on Covid-19. Ludvigsson had spoken out prominently against lockdowns and claimed in early January that primary school students and teachers had only a low risk of developing Covid-19. This had led to heavy criticism from other scientists and from numerous angry parents and teachers. Now Ludvigsson draws conclusions: "If you lie awake at night and can no longer sleep, then it's not worth it," quotes the "Spiegel". "The other side won."

According to "Spiegel", 200 activists of the Facebook group "Media Watchdogs of Sweden" are particularly aggressive in their criticism. They demand that those responsible for the Corona strategy should answer to the European Court of Human Rights. According to "Spiegel", the group founder Keith Begg even drew comparisons with the Nazis' euthanasia program. "This type of group is a threat to democracy," tweeted the science journalist Emma Frans, and a public radio station also tackled the group. The dispute over the evaluation of the Swedish special route has begun.

 

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2 hours ago, DC2 said:

Yes, it is true that PHE publishes two different figures.

But the government’s official figure is the 28 day one.

The ONS on the other hand includes citations on death certificates rather than solely on 28 day tests.

Surely it should be Death Certificate citations and nothing else? Anything else doesn't make sense.

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We would of got away with a lot of these infections/deaths , if at the start the World Health Organisation

had told every country to close  their airports. .....The easiest places to spread the Virus. 

I cannot find it at the moment but if you are bored Download the white paper from 2005

the latest one i can find  .................................................... ( WHO/CDS/CSR/GIP/2005.5 )

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1 hour ago, Blupanther said:

Anyone remember the covid cult getting hysterical over people on the beaches...:rolleyes:

 

 

No surprise there.

The government should immediately remove all restrictions on meeting outside, including at restaurants and pubs, save for a metre/two metre advisory.

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This psychopath is relentless, i'll give him that...:rolleyes:

 

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Prince Phillip in hospital.I bet Boris and Hancock are praying he catches Covid,what a coup for them.

 

"This deadly disease has claimed the life of 99 year old bigot Prince Phillip.He had his life ahead of him.

Sorry but easing of lockdown is cancelled , it's just too dangerous now."

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