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3 hours ago, Vince said:

I've yet to see it confirmed that asymptomatic cases spread the virus or if they do just how much. I've seen it said that it's likely but that's about all, however I have seen it confirmed that the Pfizer vaccine reduces transmission from asymptomatic cases by 75% so presumably that information must be available as fact somewhere.

Not so much a conspiracy theory as I'm not saying the government did this to gain control just that Governments throughout history have been reluctant to relinquish any power they have gained. The investigative journalists give every appearance of all but having disappeared when covid is the subject.

The last study that was referred to on here said that asymptomatic transmission might be up to 30% as effective as symptomatic transmission.  Others say asymptomatics cannot transmit save in exceptional cases.

It depends on the method of transmission and the viral load.

If you believe that aerosol transmission takes place (as opposed to solely transmission by water droplets) asymptomatic transmission is a risk, but if asymptomatics also lack the required viral load - and that indeed may be why they are asymptomatic - they may not transmit at all.

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Told ya...

 

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58 minutes ago, iris123 said:

We have seen that some cruise ships were hit very hard by the spread of infection, but most were not affected. 

Cruise ships were a bit of a public health disaster even before COVID, and are invariably full of the most vulnerable people. Yet no-one banned cruising before COVID... 

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1 hour ago, DC2 said:

The last study that was referred to on here said that asymptomatic transmission might be up to 30% as effective as symptomatic transmission.  Others say asymptomatics cannot transmit save in exceptional cases.

It depends on the method of transmission and the viral load.

If you believe that aerosol transmission takes place (as opposed to solely transmission by water droplets) asymptomatic transmission is a risk, but if asymptomatics also lack the required viral load - and that indeed may be why they are asymptomatic - they may not transmit at all.

That reflects my understanding of the situation, as far as we have been told it's is all if's and maybes but I find it hard to believe that there hasn't been enough research that the truth isn't known.  It really wouldn't suit the chosen narrative which has now been centred on cases based on a far from perfect test if even the worst of the options you mention was used. If asymptomatics could only transmit in exceptional cases it would make a complete nonsense of the testing regime.

I can understand taking the safest route while there is uncertainty about the virus as they will be held responsible but they should at least be honest about it as well as the full consequences of lockdown. 

In my opinion there are going to be a lot of changes the way this virus is looked at and treated in coming years but the full story will quite probably not emerge in our lifetime at least.

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Sounds really safe...

 

 

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4 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England  204       83733

Scotland    35  (7371)

Wales   12   (5356)

NI   4   (2063)

Total   255     - last  Wednesday 364

All UK Covid 19 reported deaths today- Hospital 255  other   60     total   315  (last Wednesday 442)

1st dose vaccinations  20.7 M

2nd dose   895,000

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Last 22  weeks DAILY 7 DAY AVE all UK HOSPITAL AND OTHER   Covid 19 reported deaths( taken from the daily figures i quote

W/E October 4th  43  other 9 total 52

W/E October 11th 58 other 10 total 68

W/E October 18th 82  other  35 total 117

W/E October 25th 149   other  30  total  179

W/E November 1st 214  other 46 total 260

W/E November 8th 272 other  60    total 332

W/E November 15th 331 other   80    total   413

W/E November 22nd  355  other   87       total  442

W/E November 29th  357 other 103    total  460

W/E December 6th  345  other  84        total 429

W/E December 13th  332  other  88    total  420 

W/E December 20th  369 other    93    total  462

W/E December 27th 392  other   82       total  474

W/E January 3rd  478   other  126      total  604

W/E January 10th 712  other   197    total  909

W/E January 17th  876   other    243    total  1119

W/E January 24th  899   other  341      total  1240

W/E January  31st  871  other   303      total 1174

W/E February 7th  692   other    209      total  901

W/E February 14th  514  other   158       total   672

W/E February 21st   401  other   87    total  488

W/E February 28th  304    other   20      total  324

This week(Mon/Wed)  234     other    20    total  254

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2 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Cruise ships were a bit of a public health disaster even before COVID, and are invariably full of the most vulnerable people. Yet no-one banned cruising before COVID... 

And it’s eat as much as you like free food for a lot of fat and elderly people!

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1 minute ago, DC2 said:

And it’s eat as much as you like free food for a lot of fat and elderly people!

Is it free food, or has it not been pre-paid?

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16 minutes ago, DC2 said:

And it’s eat as much as you like free food for a lot of fat and elderly people!

Don`t tell Tsunami he`s old and fat...;):P..he likes a cruise you know...:D

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Yet more evidence that restrictions, lockdowns and masks nave no effect on microbial viruses, in fact the least restrictive county has had the best results...

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21 minutes ago, Dietbowers said:

Don`t tell Tsunami he`s old and fat...;):P..he likes a cruise you know...:D

To be fair, anyone who plays squash at 80 must be in pretty good shape physically.  

Although missing sports has obviously caused mental health issues.  :D

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24 minutes ago, DC2 said:

To be fair, anyone who plays squash at 80 must be in pretty good shape physically.  

Although missing sports has obviously caused mental health issues.  :D

He does it sat on a chair on the ‘T’ though!!

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