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Big Brother Watch launched a Crowdfunding appeal to launch a legal challenge against Covid passports if it becomes necessary. They set a target of £25,000. It was only launched yesterday evening and they have already exceeded this total.

 

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1 hour ago, Wolfsbane said:

He did.

But he was correct in what he said though, for a change.

...come the next General Election who will you be voting for?

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6 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

...come the next General Election who will you be voting for?

Certainly not Labour or Lib Dem.

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2 hours ago, dj350z said:

It still doesn't explain the disparity between Portugal and Spain.

You need to know all the variables to make an accurate judgment.

Even “lockdown” needs to be defined.  

Is it something strict, like old people quarantining and being supported, or is it like this country where one, two or five members of the family go to work, shop or school and return home to infect others?

The more of the former, the fewer deaths, because it’s quarantine that works, not “lockdown”.

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21 minutes ago, foamfence said:

Certainly not Labour or Lib Dem.

...it's funny that those on here who have openly condemned Johnson and his cohorts for some of the policies and/or decisions made during the pandemic but level critcism at the oppostion will be faced with a right old dilemma when it comes to voting at the next General Election and wishing to 'save face' despite their political leanings and/or preferences.

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2 hours ago, dj350z said:

It still doesn't explain the disparity between Portugal and Spain.

So you’re holding up Portugal as a lockdown success?

Portugal Covid deaths per million 1660, Spain 1620.

Of course, what you’ll then say is that it comes in fits and starts in both countries and that the lockdowns coincide with lulls, but do they? 

I haven’t followed the two countries closely enough to know.

But we do know that it’s complicated because deaths can follow twenty eight days after lockdowns end and other variables may better explain changes: the prevailing season, strains, vaccines, climate, attitudes, personal behaviour, distancing, hand-washing and masks.

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1 minute ago, steve roberts said:

...it's funny that those on here who have openly condemned Johnson and his cohorts for some of the policies and/or decisions made during the pandemic but level critcism at the oppostion will be faced with a right old dilemma when it comes to voting at the next General Election and having to 'save face'.

There will be other options other than the Con/Lab/Lib cabal in 2024...

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47 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

There will be other options other than the Con/Lab/Lib cabal in 2024...

...is the Monster Raving Loony Party still in existence? Certainly a very apt title for some of the nonsense one reads on here...

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9 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

...it's funny that those on here who have openly condemned Johnson and his cohorts for some of the policies and/or decisions made during the pandemic but level critcism at the oppostion will be faced with a right old dilemma when it comes to voting at the next General Election and wishing to 'save face' despite their political leanings and/or preferences.

Good job I'm not one of them then.

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1 minute ago, DC2 said:

So you’re holding up Portugal as a lockdown success?

Portugal Covid deaths per million 1660, Spain 1620.

Of course, what you’ll then say is that it comes in fits and starts in both countries and that the lockdowns coincide with lulls, but do they? 

I haven’t followed the two countries closely enough to know.

But we do know that it’s complicated because deaths can follow twenty eight days after lockdowns end and other variables may better explain changes: the prevailing season, strains, vaccines, climate, attitudes, personal behaviour, distancing, hand-washing and masks.

A group of European heart surgeons have recently said that the metabolic health of nations would appear to be an overriding factor in the league of deaths. Countries that consume the highest amount of processed food, and especially processed grains, have clearly suffered the worst...

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9 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

...is the Monster Raving Loony Party still in existance? Certainly a very apt title for some of the nonsense one reads on here...

Just googled it for you, and yes, it's still an active party...

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1 hour ago, steve roberts said:

...come the next General Election who will you be voting for?

If the current Government goes full term there won't be another General Election as we have known them. 

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26 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

''A European drug regulator chief has insisted there is a 'clear' link between AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine and blood clots.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9432593/Expert-suspects-causal-link-AstraZeneca-jab-rare-blood-clots.html

It isn't just the European regulators, but also the UK one too. This is admittedly coming from Neil Ferguson, but does show there are genuine concerns now...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/astrazeneca-vaccine-may-not-suitable-23858534

https://www.sharecast.com/news/news-and-announcements/uk-regulator-could-restrict-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-in-under-30s--7861219.html

But we're told that we must listen to the AZ vaccine jingoists, and any dissent is treasonable. :rolleyes:

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On 2/25/2020 at 7:15 PM, Blupanther said:

I'm sure someone will come up with a miracle jab for it soon enough, and make billions in the process. Make everyone scared enough and they will be queuing up for it...

Just been through the first 5 pages of this thread. What's enlightening is with the folks I've currently got on ignore posts blocked how accurate the rest were:t:

What was equally predictable was who was the first to say 'Conspiracy theorists':rofl:

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