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2 minutes ago, compost said:

Barry, just curious but does that mean that you will not be involved in the French League this year then ?

Best of luck this season.

As we announced we had discussion with Thiery from the French league and we continue to explore that route and what is possible, but while waiting to see how far that could progress we of course had to put a season in place for 2021. It is this basis that we look forward now, and if we can develop further with France happy days. France as you may know currently has terrible Covid, so this is another factor is the challenge. Keep safe all

 

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If non league tracks want to continue their existence then surely they should be allowed to operate under an open licence.

It used to happen in the days of Rye House Eastbourne Plymouth before they moved into or back to league racing.

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On 4/19/2021 at 6:01 PM, brianbuck said:

The interesting thing about this development is that there appears to be an alternative organisation to the BSPA, and one which is acceptable to the FIM so clubs who feel disgruntled about having no say in how their league is being run or who disagree with the imposition of rules which they think are wrong, seem to be free to give their alliegance to this organisation without any of their riders incurring any penalties.

I certainly can't see the BSPA being in any way happy about this!

Surely this is more ACU territory than BSPA.

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17 hours ago, GWC said:

If non league tracks want to continue their existence then surely they should be allowed to operate under an open licence.

It used to happen in the days of Rye House Eastbourne Plymouth before they moved into or back to league racing.

I don't really see why it's a big issue. If an organisation wishes to break away, surely they can, so long as the health and safety is in place and insurances. Maybe the BSPA have a legal right to the name 'speedway'? If that's the case, you call it something else. And if riders wish to ride in both camps, what can be the problem? A number of riders ride speedway, long track and grass track.

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1 hour ago, Ray Stadia said:

I don't really see why it's a big issue. If an organisation wishes to break away, surely they can, so long as the health and safety is in place and insurances. Maybe the BSPA have a legal right to the name 'speedway'? If that's the case, you call it something else. And if riders wish to ride in both camps, what can be the problem? A number of riders ride speedway, long track and grass track.

Maybe so but the bspl will outlaw and ban any rider who rides on a track not under their control.

It happened back in the early 60’s when Mike Parker set up the Provincial league without authorisation from the then National league promoters.  Riders were blacklisted and a closed shop then but as it turned out it was the saving of speedway when both leagues combined in 1965.

 

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10 minutes ago, GWC said:

Maybe so but the bspl will outlaw and ban any rider who rides on a track not under their control.

It happened back in the early 60’s when Mike Parker set up the Provincial league without authorisation from the then National league promoters.  Riders were blacklisted and a closed shop then but as it turned out it was the saving of speedway when both leagues combined in 1965.

 

Lots of things have changed since the 60s

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2 hours ago, bigcatdiary said:

Surely this is more ACU territory than BSPA.

It doesn't seem that the ACU will have a problem as they include Nora Moto-X updates in their weekly news.

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1 hour ago, GWC said:

Maybe so but the bspl will outlaw and ban any rider who rides on a track not under their control.

It happened back in the early 60’s when Mike Parker set up the Provincial league without authorisation from the then National league promoters.  Riders were blacklisted and a closed shop then but as it turned out it was the saving of speedway when both leagues combined in 1965.

 

The big difference was that the Provincial league was actually bigger and stronger.

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1 hour ago, foamfence said:

The big difference was that the Provincial league was actually bigger and stronger.

which the championship would be if teams weren't offered sweeteners to move up or who moved up to ensure their race day

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39 minutes ago, ch958 said:

which the championship would be if teams weren't offered sweeteners to move up or who moved up to ensure their race day

Not quite relevant but probably true.

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4 hours ago, GWC said:

Maybe so but the bspl will outlaw and ban any rider who rides on a track not under their control.

It happened back in the early 60’s when Mike Parker set up the Provincial league without authorisation from the then National league promoters.  Riders were blacklisted and a closed shop then but as it turned out it was the saving of speedway when both leagues combined in 1965.

 

We're not living in the 1960s anymore.

The MSA (now Motorsports UK) gave up the fight on this years ago on the grounds of restraint of trade. Both drivers and officials can participate in events not under their control without consequence to their own licensing. 

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19 hours ago, skydog said:

It doesn't seem that the ACU will have a problem as they include Nora Moto-X updates in their weekly news.

We will see

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On 4/23/2021 at 9:08 AM, Ray Stadia said:

I don't really see why it's a big issue. If an organisation wishes to break away, surely they can, so long as the health and safety is in place and insurances. Maybe the BSPA have a legal right to the name 'speedway'? If that's the case, you call it something else. And if riders wish to ride in both camps, what can be the problem? A number of riders ride speedway, long track and grass track.

They do apparently.

Its why Isle of Wight have referred to their season as 'shale track racing'.

On 4/23/2021 at 11:08 AM, GWC said:

Maybe so but the bspl will outlaw and ban any rider who rides on a track not under their control.

It happened back in the early 60’s when Mike Parker set up the Provincial league without authorisation from the then National league promoters.  Riders were blacklisted and a closed shop then but as it turned out it was the saving of speedway when both leagues combined in 1965.

 

Humph has mentioned that an attempt to ban riders - no matter how it is dressed up - will be a restraint of trade and that is contrary to common law.   

I have looked into this a bit - see the IOW 2020 thread - and he's almost certainly right.  

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Interesting thoughts after the week football just had with threats to ban breakaway clubs from leagues and players from national teams etc

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