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'They Retired Too Soon'

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On 7/9/2021 at 4:13 PM, E I Addio said:

Still absolutely spot on choices though Steve, albeit different eras. Always a puzzle to me why Knutson went while at the top of game, while still a relatively young man. Maybe Norbold can throw some light on this? Bjorn was I think, only a few months younger than Ivan Mauger and I feel he could well have snatched a couple more world championships from either Mauger, Olsen, Michanek, or the Pole that cheated , before age started to catch up and retirement loomed.

I'm sure i  read somewhere that Bjorn Knuttson retired as he had achieved being World Champion,

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On 7/11/2021 at 9:09 AM, steve roberts said:

Does Andy Galvin qualify? Did injury curtial his career as I can't remember?

Didn't he suffer a very badly broken arm which he struggled to recover from ? Certainly a very exciting and entertaining rider, Hackney seemed to be churning them out at that point

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35 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

I'm sure i  read somewhere that Bjorn Knuttson retired as he had achieved being World Champion,

He carried on for at least a year and came a about 10 th in the 66 World Final but possibly he had lost his hunger after winning the title. He seems to have carried on racing long track for a few years. I have a vague notion that he took on a car dealership and building that up took a lot of his time but could be wrong about that.

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I know that Conny Samuelsson has been mentioned on other threads but his UK exploits were short to say the least although he continued racing in Sweden for many years. I would have thought that a British Promoter would have given him another chance as he did register some good results? Perhaps he didn't wish to come back to these shores? Would make a good interview in either of the retro magazines?

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11 hours ago, E I Addio said:

He carried on for at least a year and came a about 10 th in the 66 World Final but possibly he had lost his hunger after winning the title. He seems to have carried on racing long track for a few years. I have a vague notion that he took on a car dealership and building that up took a lot of his time but could be wrong about that.

Great rider Addio it was a massive regret of mine never to have seen Bjorn ride and the original  PC .My uncle who see both of them ride said they both could of one won more titles hypothetical really what could of been those two are certainly in a alltime top 20 more so because of the era they were in a mega tough one.

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23 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

Great rider Addio it was a massive regret of mine never to have seen Bjorn ride and the original  PC .My uncle who see both of them ride said they both could of one won more titles hypothetical really what could of been those two are certainly in a alltime top 20 more so because of the era they were in a mega tough one.

Actually Sid I do think it is a mega tough era today in terms of the top level but for a different reason . Up to about the mid seventies tuners didn’t play a major part. It was as much about the rider as the bike, and that’s why we have to say Briggs , Fundin, Moore etc were truly great riders,. Today it’s as much about the getting the sponsors to fund a fortune on tuners , set ups , spare engines etc. I’m not knocking today’s riders by any means but it’s very much a different game today. Some have 30 different engines. On the other hand, take Terry Betts for example. He said in Classic Speedway that he used to buy one new engine at the start of the season, used it the whole season, never laid a spanner on it for the whole season except changing the valve springs and he was, on his day , capable of beating  the worlds best.  

I admire Jason Doyle because he became World Champion relatively  on a shoe string compared with most modern riders, but I doubt whether anyone will win it again without massive sponsorship money behind  them. The rider used to be more important than the bike, today, I think it’s the other way round.

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15 hours ago, E I Addio said:

Actually Sid I do think it is a mega tough era today in terms of the top level but for a different reason . Up to about the mid seventies tuners didn’t play a major part. It was as much about the rider as the bike, and that’s why we have to say Briggs , Fundin, Moore etc were truly great riders,. Today it’s as much about the getting the sponsors to fund a fortune on tuners , set ups , spare engines etc. I’m not knocking today’s riders by any means but it’s very much a different game today. Some have 30 different engines. On the other hand, take Terry Betts for example. He said in Classic Speedway that he used to buy one new engine at the start of the season, used it the whole season, never laid a spanner on it for the whole season except changing the valve springs and he was, on his day , capable of beating  the worlds best.  

I admire Jason Doyle because he became World Champion relatively  on a shoe string compared with most modern riders, but I doubt whether anyone will win it again without massive sponsorship money behind  them. The rider used to be more important than the bike, today, I think it’s the other way round.

Totally agree with all  of that and you could say when the handicap system was in place the track craft element was odvious looking back.Going back to yesteryear i do think Bjorn could of won more titles and i really believe Mirac Moore was better than his two wins there is a rider who had real track craft a class act.I think Ole was better than his four wins and believe Michael Lee should of had more than just a maiden title all down to opinions Addio.

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Chris Manchester was an enigma...seemed to have the world at his feet but he never really progressed and returned to the States never to return.

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Perhaps one could also include Garry Middleton who 'retired' when still relatively young? It's been suggested that he got side tracked with outside business interests but who's to say that he couldn't have resurrected his career if he had put his mind to it?

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