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Peterborough just got to stop booking such high scoring guests

If the SON was anything to go by those bikes should arrive a week later than everyone else's

But he's away tonight

gone past the stage of listening to Johnson i'm not doubting anything he does for club, by all accounts he puts loads of hours in for nothing the same as the guys from ppsc ,but slagging the so called internet warriors off and claiming they don't know what there on about was foolish because at the end of the day he looks the biggest fool , his team is 5h1te and the booking of guests is a bigger pi55take .if panthers cant afford to get the likes of bellego in the team they should be nowhere near the top league .never thought id see the day I never went to a local derby against lynn but Jesus Christ no way would I give chapman another penny the way he;s taking p155

If he is losing money, it is his own fault. Nobody forced him to make the original team much weaker.

You were saying about Josh & not getting a low score.

If the ref had got his decisions right early in the meeting the overall gap would have been wider. He was a totally blind smeg head (polite description)

Amazing once again from the guests. Those backing Lambert, what were you saying!

You are missing the point. Its not a case of bringing anyone in, it was the destruction of the original team that pizzed people off. I knew this would happen, and that's why i'm an ex speedway supporter. I'd rather put money in a charity box than give it to Chapman...

Forty, I would suggest ‘ my generation’ are the ones with a decent expendable income, so would it not make sense to attract us ? The younger generation have so many other interests and, to me would be a much harder audience to entice. As for fiver Speedway with World Champion’s on display, that does sound somewhat of a tongue in cheek and throw away comment. For me personally I don’t want something for nothing, but will not accept nothing for something.

People moan because they care, it’s possible to still love the sport and your club without being willing / able to go any more. £18 is an awful lot of money for two or three races out of fifteen, especially if it involves a long drive or rushing around after work. And it’s perfectly possible to know what a meeting was like without being there, plenty of ways to know how good or bad it was. As SL says the ‘use it or lose it’ line can only really be used if the person running the show is doing absolutely everything in their power to make the product attractive and customers feel valued.

Jason is a good entertainer off track too, we will miss him in the after meeting clubhouse get togethers. You might need a bleep machine to edit some of his comments though.

That’s sums up the exact reason we stopped going for the two of us with travel cost it was £45 - £50 a meeting we used to walk to the car after the meeting and most meetings we asked why did we attend neither of us enjoyed most meetings so we stopped going that was 2 years ago and to be honest we’ve not missed it in the slightest- Now we get home from work have a meal watch tv and relax rather than rushing home from work chasing to Kings Lynn to pay out on something we for most part we wasn’t enjoying .

Hopefully the bike he used at the S O N meeting has returned from Russia for him to use

Yet Webbo you still go. Must be like going to the Cinema to watch the same film time and time again, knowing you didn’t enjoy it the first time. I don’t blame Buster, more the fans who pay £20 knowing full well they ain’t gonna enjoy it. Send me ya £20. I’ll flush it down the loo for you. Least it will save you a few quid on fuel.

From a neutral, good to see Dan going well away from home. Hope he's getting it back together

That Proctor bloke is doing okay though.

You speak a lot of sense, If it was just about the money I would have packed up long ago. It's the occasion, the moment, the time when I can escape the misses and drift back into nostalgia. There are many reasons why I still go. but keeping contact with many friends is the prime cause. Plus, I would hate to think there was a fantastic meeting and it was on one of the days when I didn't bother to go

Maybe it’s a case of the older fans remember when we actually had racing rather than gate and go - as for admission I’d much sooner pay £25 and actually see some top riders rather than the same bunch doubling up in both leagues

Baaaaaa

I can understand exactly what you are saying. I have been to one meeting in the last two years, having been a regular attender (including a number of away visits), for many years. I first started going to speedway in the early sixties at the Firs, but that's another story. There are a lot of reasons why i no longer go with the value for money aspect being one of them. I was finding it increasingly difficult to continue an empathy with the team and the riders with things like doubling up, guests, ever increasing rider replacement being so prevalent. British speedway seems to be at the bottom of the importance list for most riders,. i.e. the fourth division. I find it very difficult to get excited about it although I do still monitor what goes on. Also, what other sport would allow one person to own three of the seven clubs in the top league? Absolutely ridiculous!

agreed but you have to start somewhere and slowing the buggers down wd do for a kick off

Very much the same for me although I go from time to time ( once so far this season ). So little VFM, so few races worthy of the name. Long drawn-out process with too much paint drying time. Was going tonight but my friend from Peterborough decided that the heat would not make the journey nor the racing worthwhile ( in fact from near Kettering ). So sunned off! He is coming for a playoff match - if of course.......like so many I do not miss it much when I do not attend. Thursday usually means Swedish speedway and with them not having a heatwave, it might be worth watching. When you think I retired to KL in 2002 mostly because I would be near a speedway track, the lustre has definitely worn off.

more speed, which wasn't required for the sport, just individuals. It's just an arms race. Someone has to have the cojones to stop it before it's too late. GB could do this unilaterally - international riders have numerous machines anyway to ride abroad. A decision like that would however require the aforementioned cojones

Depends what his remit it .. I expect his job is to pick the best side and get the best out of the people he's picked and that has been outstanding thus far remember he not getting paid 52 weeks of the year . The thing that is sad is about Woffy he had the power to do so much more in terms or riding here turning up at uk finals etc . His attitude been one of looking after himself and that is fair enough but if that is the case don't keep going on about this passion for uk speedway .

It's been like that at times for at least 15 years at Peterborough. There has been some nasty stuff and management have often been justified in coming out fighting. Generally though it's lack of communication/explanation that causes the problems. Fans get upset and vent their anger and management get upset when in fact they could have nipped things in the bud much earlier with a version of events that people will believe and not the corporate line that usually doesn't stack up to other info out there.

It wasnt a bad meeting, track was better and good to see a decent crowd in after they did alot of promoting over the recent days. There were loads of kids in which is the generation we need but not sure about the whistles they give to them. Gets a bit annoying after a while. Garrity after a slow start was an absolute joy to watch, no doubt he will prove to a good signing. Yes hes wild but hes a match winner and will be popular with the fans. Aarnio for me has been a poor signing. He doesn't look like a heat leader which is a shame as with Adam out , we need all riders to step up. I simply dont understand why we didnt use the tactical sub in Heat 10?. I would have thought Garrity would have had a decent chance of beating Grobauer and Covatti and partnering Worrall to a 5-1. It would have been better to have Worrall/Garrity in Heat 10, Aarnio/Shanes in Heat 11 and Garrity/Wallinger in Heat 12. It then would have meant we could swap Wallinger for Shanes in Heat 14. A shame we have no home match next week when its the school holidays but hopefully we can bounce back and start winning our home matches next month.

Bomber is now held in the same vein at Glasgow by the fans as Sarj is at your club, due to the fact that he never seemed to put the same effort in for us last season as he did for his premiership club. Being on a guarantee was our fault if on just points related earnings we might have seen the effort , not a big deal more a tongue in cheek comment. BTW I think Bomber on his game is box office we just didn't see it apart from the odd occasion,

At the current valuation rate i have £4.50 as an offer if he's interested? I personally hate all the turning back on fans, lets see what you know, don't like it don't come mentality belongs long in the past. Criticism via social media (justified or otherwise) is a thing of the present and needs to be handled properly by those involved with the club namely by giving honest and frequent updates even if the say things like we have been looking at our options but there are no current riders available within our pay structure.

Fricke is a level above and he now is genuine world class.

I know that- however the choice is bad. Find a sports bar in Wroclaw and watch the Extraleague would be my suggestion.

Well if we had not made this switch I don't know what more Ben Barker could have done to make us make this switch ?. His form so far indicates he is the long long overdue No1 scorer here there and everywhere we have needed for many a long season !. Seems the chance for Jason Garrity to pick up the ride at Brummies has also fallen at the right time and everyone moves on with best wishes and thanks for their efforts. Having already secured the standout rider of the season in Danny Ayres; in Ben Barker we have an exciting signing that can make the difference especially away from the EWR. Josh; Jake; Ben; Danny that's a four that can mix it with the best of them. Throw in Stephan; Simon and Ryan and if we can stay fit we should be good for a play-off spot ! Well done the management for securing Ben Barker as a Scorpion.

There are two great articles in this weeks Speedway Star that cover your Nice meeting at the IOW and another by Josh Auty about running costs and how modern speedway is going. It's not rocket Science when you read the quotes from riders about the meeting, and it's benefits and the positives that came out of it. Club Speedway has to go down this route...for every conceivable positive reason. Both for the benefit of fans and riders alike. The only recurring theme is riders saying what do they do with the engines they've already invested in. Just use them in Individual events...sell them to riders for Individual events. The maintenance and tuning costs will catch up over time....to their benefit. As Auty says...the only people benefiting are the tuners. £350 for labour alone to strip a bike before parts Quoted. Madness considering how often that has to happen. Unfortunately riders and promotors in general seem set in their ways...it's so ingrained. And riders are like lemmings...they just follow whoever is fastest and winning. Copy them in the hope of also winning. As Auty pointed out...however much he spent on fast engines, he came to the conclusion it was his technique that was lacking, regardless of how much money he spent. Which is pretty much what we witness now every meeting. Things have got to change...and the 'Nice' way is the way forward imo.

I would suggest the ‘success’ in recent years has more to do with Tai dragging the other riders along while he was riding as a World no 1, rather that Rosco’s magical words to each rider before they went out for each race. It could be suggested that Tai is the inspiration to the riders to up their game while he is riding out of his skin for the cause.

Jeepers, I've never ever driven home in a storm like that before, phew glad to get indoors , hot though it still is!! On a plus note, great to have Cameron and Jake back to winning ways

Paul Starke got an Audi when booked against Ipswich......

Humble pie sent back to shop

Good weather, good crowd, good racing. Swindon top 5 very powerful, and reserves chipped in.

Heat 13 was amazing, riders swapping positions for 2 laps!

He was never going to be the answer a strange signing, a signing for signing sake methinks, meeting going as expected Swindon far too good, we really are shocking away from home and tonight sees the reason I wouldn't have kept Worrall either, gone as far as hes going to.

E-mail them if your that interested,I already stated I don’t know it only what I was told,and I’m not that bothered.

To late to turn speedway in this country enjoy it whilst you still can, also anyone comparing football to speedway is a prat!

There's a real link running through several of the most recent posts isn't there..? The Sport really doesn't need to (forlornly as it works out) chase new fans. It just needs to get back those who gradually became completely disillusioned with it, and disengaged by it.. I would suggest if would more than double it's current weekly average such are the amount of people who have stopped attending in the past ten years or so but still keep 'in touch' with it.. A strange business decision isn't it to completly ignore those who still feel a connection to you, and decide not to make the changes to your operation that they highlight as being inherently flawed..?

Chances of storm very minor and isolated - just 3% in last forecast I saw and certainly nothing looks like that is wrong to the eye on the ground either so far today All should be set fair - bring your umbrella mind as you may need it as a parasol instead

Spot on!

On paper I think Lynn appear to have the upper hand and could achieve a comfortable win, . . But local derbies don't work out that way. No doubt some riders will perform better than usual, and others will have a bad night, so no doubt the scores will be much closer than one imagines. One thing we do know is the track will be grippy and the processional races will only satisfy a few die-hard supporters. The purist upon us will only have their memories of when derby matches at Lynn were the real McCoy .

A promoter once told me that the "Sky Money" basically paid for the EL No1.. As it was circa £110k per team not a bad little earner for your '3rd job'.. Think they also got £10k a match to cover any crowd shortfall.. Literally MILLIONS handed out to riders, (and tuners) over 20 years to deliver what we have today.. Truly a criminally sad joke...

Or put Shanes at 7 & save on programme alterations!

He lived near Kings Lynn and use to race bangers. Any relation to the esteemed leader of the sport in this country. It is unfortunate but the halcyon days have gone. Speedway is no longer viable as a professional sport and to add to the dire situation the weekend’s debacle only puts another nail in the coffin on this once great sport. If it is not too late I cannot i believe it is time to re-trench and look inwardly at all that does not work and consider regrouping and start again. To be brutal It has no appeal to younger audiences, the diehards are drifting away in droves and the riders live in cloud cuckoo land when it comes to thinking it is a viable option to making a living. If BT sport walk who can blame them. Having followed speedway since 1969 it is sad to see that the sport has lost its way and that the light at the end of a tunnel may well be another train coming. It has to take on board all that is wrong and stop burying one’s head in the sand. BSPA/ Clubs, wake up you do not have a viable business proposition and must work together to find a solution for the benefit of all. Carry on in your silos and speedway is dead.

You really are a silly sod