racers and royals

If anyone is hoping to watch tonight`s meeting on the internet- please PM me

You have forgotten one thing- the team with the extra rider still have to finish the race although poodling around at the back. Just consider the excitement if one has an ef on the 3rd lap, will he be lapped and excluded or can he get to the finish line in time so he isn`t lapped. !!

Bit previous aren`t you

No check out the race card links on the race card thread- the teams can swap the riders around within the 1 and 3 and 2 and 4 positions at any time( ie each team have 3 - 1 and 3 and 3 -2 and 4 gates over the 21 heats)

With the SWC although many did not like the "joker" at least we had a straight 20 heats straight fight out. With the SON picture the scene in Wroclaw a week tonight- we have had 43 races(over 2 days) building up to the "winner takes all " final( actually 2nd and 3rd in this case !!!) and it`s Poland versus ANO. The full house of partisan Polish fans are going mad with the expectation on seeing their boys lift the trophy and Magic`s bike cuts out with 5 secs left on the clock and is excluded - will the race ever start ?- there will be a mini riot !!! " In front of the starting tape, a countdown clock is placed on the infield indicating the remainder of the 2 minutes time allowance. If, in the opinion of the Referee, any Rider or Riders are not ready to start when the 2 minutes time allowance has expired or are not under the control of the Starting Marshal, they shall be disqualified from the heat. The disqualified Rider or Riders shall not be replaced." and this( different scenario but equally same result)- rider thrown out. 8.4 Unsatisfactory Start Starts will be carried out in accordance with Regulation 70.10.5 Where, in the opinion of the Referee, a start has been incorrect then he will immediately stop the race and order a restart. The Referee will give a warning to any rider deemed to have been the cause of or contributed to the unsatisfactory start. This will be communicated verbally by the Race Director before the race is restarted. In circumstances where the referee is of the opinion that an offence has been committed but the offending rider has gained no advantage and is deemed not to have interfered with any other rider in the same heat, the Referee may allow the heat to continue and issue the warning after the heat is completed. In these circumstances the offending rider must be informed before leaving the pits for his/her next heat. Any starting offence committed after a warning has been given in the same meeting under this Regulation will result in the disqualification of the rider from that race. This will be signified by the showing of his disqualification light by the Referee. The Reserve Rider will not be permitted to take the place of any rider disqualified for starting offences. In my opinion if they wanted to go down this " final race" format then they should have made it best of 3 final races. any scenario`s like above would at least give the team another chance and could actually build up the climax if the final stood at 1 race all !!

No just using the U21 reserve

Who has told you that the winning rider in the final wins the comp ? I suggest that you now can tell them they are wrong - after all it’s no difference to 4,3,2,0 - 2nd and 3rd beats 1st and last !!

Because it’s a “ made for TV “ competition and for that we need single race drama for it to be successful - building up to a climax. However it’s bound to end in tears with an exclusion in the final !!!

From 1pm UK time

Poland v Sweden Thursday May 31st from Poznan all heats short version

All heats short version

Sorry Philip, you are normally correct but on this occasion not(page 26 of the SON rules) 3. If the scores are shared between the two teams taking part in the Race Offs heats 22 & 23. Final 2 heat 22 (Semi Final) and Final 2 heat 23 (Grand Final), the team taking 2nd and 3rd position will be considered the better place team.

Lodz match against Daugavpils on June 10th has been postponed until the 30th July which is a Monday !!! -new stadium not yet ready. Another change is Gniezno v Rybnik is now on Friday 15th June on Eleven sport start time 4.45pm UK time On Sunday June 24th the Rybnik v lublin match is on Eleven sport start time 4.15pm UK time

Esbjerg v Holsterbo Wednesday May 30th

As someone who has been to plenty of GP`s all over Europe i can`t agree with you fully. i think there has to be a mix of city tracks and "country" tracks. If you take Sweden we have lost two great cities to spend a weekend Stockholm and Gothenburg and we have now Malilla, in the middle of nowhere ( although a great racetrack usually) and now Hallstavik which i`m not sure about as a racing venue. add in Copenhagen they are all big losses in my opinion.

Anybody watch it ? was it a decent meeting ? decent crowd ?

sorry should have read the press release- didn`t realise he is on a 7 day ban.

Sportowefakty are saying a crowd of 6200

Must of had a sick note as they used R/R in the return at Leicester in the evening.

Should be on here https://ssl.ustreamix.com/embed.php?id=polsat-sport&referer=www.google.co.uk&host=ssl.ustreamix.com

If it`s not a silly question- his Polish team didn`t have a match on Sunday- so wouldn`t it have been better to catch the early Sunday flight back and he probably would have been home lunchtime Sunday.

Should be live here tomorrow http://www.maniak.tv/kanal-7

No Jokers- i posted the rules and details of the heats a few pages back(page 15). The winning of the whole 2 day 44 races final is down to 1 final race !!

Just watched the final match Vetlanda v Smederna and if i had asked Ghostie before i watched it he would have told me it would be boring as it`s Vetlanda !! and he was right-how Smederna didn`t get all the points i don`t quite know- 8 up with 3 to go should have been enough.

The problem is that more and more riders who ride over here are signing for Nice Polska and div 2 teams. this immediately causes problems because these 2 leagues not only run Sunday`s but run the odd matches on Friday`s and Saturday`s. Riders who just ride Premiership are not effected - it`s the Championship and doubling up riders such as Klindt, Nick Morris, Lawson,Richie Worrall, Wright,Wells,Ellis and Kerr. Poland do use a squad system but understandingly wan`t to put the best side out especially if they are near the top of the league.