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Theres a lot of things i could say, but its its better to keep it off a forum. So no matter how many times you fish, i wont bite. You`ll post more than me on the subject as you must have more time, i have to go out to work, i take it you are either retired or on the dole, which either way im paying for your up keep through my taxes. (thats a different debate) For a bloke with such strong views, its a shame you hadnt turned up at stoke more in recent seasons and put your money into the club like many others, maybe it wouldnt be in the current situation it finds itself. This will be the last time i reply to you on this subject as i dont have to explain my opinions to a bloke who puts very little into the club. We can all sit at home pay for a net connection and have a pop at people who do spend money through the turnstiles at clubs, even if i dont agree how they have been run the place. cheerio

Fire away with the insults fella, are you struggling to keep this going? Im not saying my opinion is right, or my views. But what i wont take is some bloke who turns up once in a blue moon preaching to me about Stoke speedway. If you feel so strongly about keeping it going then buy yourself a season ticket, get off your @rse and go do some work for free to help improve the place. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but it doesnt carry much weight with me when you only go now and then. Been nice having a difference of opinion, take care and no doubt i`ll see you at Stoke at some point.

If you are going to highlight my posts and have a pop, then leave out the play on words. I had a pop at YOU, no other travelling speedway fans. I have travelled all over to watch to Stoke, so why would post that when it would include me. I havent stated that i WILL travel anywhere, i mentioned the places you have brought up IF I fancied a speedway fix. What makes you so high and mighty on Stoke speedway and why fans who have put far more in than you are so wrong? I have no issue with the NL, just the promotion and its half arsed way of doing things. Would you like to pop down and do some work there yourself over the winter ? theres plenty to be done.

Ive called myself nothing. Unlike you who likes to come across as some sort of martyr that travels all over to keep clubs going. If you wish to carry your digs on then pm me and we`ll do it that way so as we dont bore others with our difference of opinion.

TThe pc crashed as i was posting, and what went on couldnt be changed, which sadly was a quote of your drivel. Right, how often do you go to Stoke speedway ? ive missed no more than a handful of meetings over many years. Ive provided materials and painted the majority of the stadium, ive given up Friday nights out to go down and erect the fence (before the air fence days), ive given up Saturdays to help out and gone down in the week after work to do bits. Last season i organised a trip to Edinburgh and Berwick to follow the team, the club provided no travel to these fixtures and never do to league fixtures. Dont forget, they are a promotion. Now then, ive done my bit over the years, and im a bit fed up of hearing their excuses when they sit on their hands doing bugger all to help themselves. I dont see how my other response is immature, are you on this planet??? or are you some sort of weirdo that goes any where to watch speedway? When i have top flight football on my door step, i dont see what business it is of yours if i decide to go to watch it. Seeing as you are so concerned about this stoke thread, then no doubt you turn up for every meeting. If you dont,by all means you have your views, but dont keep hammering me for mine when i have done my bit over the years to keep the place solvent.

He doesnt have to, but i was replying to someone elses post that tells me i must turn up every week. Why should i ? No doubt you`ll give me the spiel of either turn up or lose it. Well if it goes mate it goes. Theres plenty of other entertainments in the are i live, Premier League football, cinemas, theatre, multiple,pubs and eateries. Im not the anorak speedway fan that will troup anywhere and be mugged off through fear of it closing. If i fancied a speedway fix, Brum and Wolves are close, Buxton also, its not the end of the world.

Firstly can you provide me with the figures to back up your claim that the running costs have gone up so much. Why am i expected to pay a promoter his losses if he cant run his business properly? would you give me your money if i was running a company badly? The electricity bill i can cover on my own mate, its run on a dodgy generator so a few gallon of red diesel wont break my bank balance. Instead of accusing others of spouting utter rubbish, have a closer look at what you have posted fella. It seems to me you dont know the half of it. And no, im not a speedway nomad, im a Stoke speedway fan only. Home every week, and a few away ones also. But i like many others are sick of hearing about 3 or 4 year plans than nothing materialises from. Seeing poor teams tracked each season as other clubs with similar crowd levels seem to do ok and compete. If they actually promoted it instead of expecting folk to turn up anyway, then maybe the losses wouldnt be there. If its losing so much money, i`ll swap that shiny BMW with private plates on it that the clubs financial director has for my car , that`ll save a few pound on fuel, car tax and insurance and they can put it towards covering their losses, along with your donation.

No thanks, ive enough to cope with following Stoke

Vissing wasnt bad, just that hes been recalled to Pboro so Stoke get left high and dry. This season is a joke for the Potters fans, and they wonder why folk moan on forums.

Cosmic and it goes from bad to worse

Alcohol should only be allowed on the concourse, the amount of times i had to get up to let a large family past to get more beer was a joke, then in turn they need to pee. The bloke was already steamed when he first got in the place and almost fell over the people sat in front of us. I also like to have a beer, but wont get off my face and ruin other peoples day out. In his drunken state he managed to knock over his beer, soak his wifes jacket on the floor and her bag downside being, he was back up again to go get some more