Youhave2minutes Posted Friday at 10:07 PM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 10:07 PM 1 minute ago, The White Knight said: I'm sorry. I can't agree with you. Betting would ruin Speedway - that's my view. Loads of fixing and corruption 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted Friday at 10:13 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:13 PM 1 hour ago, Ben91 said: Bookmakers already offer speedway markets. Bet Victor (or any bookmaker) has nothing to gain by sponsoring a sport with such a small profile and potentially no TV coverage. It would have to be a huge favour to Harry Redknapp to get something like that to happen. Things are pretty dire if that’s our great white hope. Greyhounds do not get tv coverage. The potential way forward is for sponsorship of speedway to include both tv advertising and numerous betting markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted Friday at 10:35 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:35 PM 21 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Greyhounds do not get tv coverage. The potential way forward is for sponsorship of speedway to include both tv advertising and numerous betting markets. Greyhounds have their own channel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted Friday at 10:39 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:39 PM 5 hours ago, Ben91 said: Professional sports are generally moving away from gambling sponsorship. It’s not a good look. There are outliers such as darts but that is a sport with a profile to put the bookmaker in front of millions of people on television. Speedway can’t do that. Nobody knows the odds like a bookmaker and Speedway would be a losing bet for them. But professional sports ARE NOT moving away from gambling sponsorship. Also betting markets for speedway are numerous, well beyond place results. In other words speedway & the betting industry could work well as a partnership. Don’t knock it based on a biased opinion but embrace it as a positive way forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted Friday at 11:53 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:53 PM Whether you agree with it or not, on what ever grounds, betting is a huge opportunity, Just need to push the ethical betting button. Lobby to get greyhound racing banned on the basis of animal rights, plenty of evidence to support that. Low and behold huge gap in the betting market and lot's a new/returning venues 😉 I'm not a gambler myself but it's a huge part of culture within affluent males. I suspect you'd have to go all in with the bookmakers (i,e, let them dictate what they want) and that might not necessarily be league racing but hey if it brings sufficient funds into the sport.... The sport is made for betting... ...even to the point of having lengthy gaps between the action to allow for more betting. It's not like the sport has many more throws of the dice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 01:14 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:14 AM You could bet on how many guests turn up in a play off semi final.,. My money is on three.... Japan's version of the sport is set up just for betting.... #justsaying..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted yesterday at 04:24 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:24 AM You could introduce betting on other aspects of Speedway. Typically the start time of the first heat as against the start time advertised in the programme. King's Lynn would get good odds as a 19:30 Proggy start drifts towards 8pm and past it. Also' at what heat does the 'sun break' occur. These odds could be paired up with the first appearance of Phil's hosepipe! Enjoy 🤑 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted yesterday at 07:05 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:05 AM 8 hours ago, 1 valve said: But professional sports ARE NOT moving away from gambling sponsorship. Also betting markets for speedway are numerous, well beyond place results. In other words speedway & the betting industry could work well as a partnership. Don’t knock it based on a biased opinion but embrace it as a positive way forward. They are. Football (one of the biggest of them all) is phasing gambling sponsorship out because it can cause serious addiction. The number of bookmakers who offer speedway markets has also decreased. They aren’t interested. The only people who want to bet on speedway are the existing diminishing fan base or those with serious gambling addiction who would happily bet on Romanian under-12s netball. Companies sponsor things that will help them improve or promote their business generally. Speedway won’t. Greyhounds is a dying sport too and one that has always been synonymous with gambling. It isn’t a partnership that has just sprung up. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth but let’s not assume bookmakers are the saviour. It’s straw clutching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 07:21 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 07:21 AM 2 hours ago, Lefty said: You could introduce betting on other aspects of Speedway. Typically the start time of the first heat as against the start time advertised in the programme. King's Lynn would get good odds as a 19:30 Proggy start drifts towards 8pm and past it. Also' at what heat does the 'sun break' occur. These odds could be paired up with the first appearance of Phil's hosepipe! Enjoy 🤑 An Acca..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted yesterday at 06:07 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:07 PM 10 hours ago, Ben91 said: They are. Football (one of the biggest of them all) is phasing gambling sponsorship out All the more reason to get into bed with them, Beggars can't be choosers and all that. I've seen gambling addiction up close and it's not nice but I don't blame the bookmakers. They don't force people to gamble and indeed I'm sure they'd prefer their customers to lose a little more often. I'm not a fan of gambling because I don't see risk taking where you have zero control over the outcome as a skill which should be rewarded. But it's not a million miles away from stockbroking is it so just about everyone is implicated in this risk and reward world. Like I say you probably have to play to their tune but it feels like there's nothing left to lose at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago I hate gambling, my step son is an addict and its wrecked his life. But riddle me this if we get into bed with gambling,, race fixing. I worked with Adam Shields for many years and the year he left Eastbourne for Lakeside he took a booking to guest for Greg Hancock with Reading at Arlington. Adam was on form and it worked out if Reading conceded a 4-2 in heat 7 they could bring Adam into heat 8 on a double points score. A rider had a retirement in heat 7 with a Reading rider getting a second, Adam went out in heat 8 and got the 6 points. Now, is that race fixing in the bookies eyes or as I feel, a tactical move? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 43 minutes ago, M.D said: I hate gambling, my step son is an addict and its wrecked his life. But riddle me this if we get into bed with gambling,, race fixing. I worked with Adam Shields for many years and the year he left Eastbourne for Lakeside he took a booking to guest for Greg Hancock with Reading at Arlington. Adam was on form and it worked out if Reading conceded a 4-2 in heat 7 they could bring Adam into heat 8 on a double points score. A rider had a retirement in heat 7 with a Reading rider getting a second, Adam went out in heat 8 and got the 6 points. Now, is that race fixing in the bookies eyes or as I feel, a tactical move? You can also have the "best rider in the race" who will start odds on, deliberately coming in behind his own team mate to keep his average down, but pick up the same points money... Ahem! Of course, I meant "shepherding" a less experienced colleague around for the good of the team..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, M.D said: I hate gambling, my step son is an addict and its wrecked his life. But riddle me this if we get into bed with gambling,, race fixing. I worked with Adam Shields for many years and the year he left Eastbourne for Lakeside he took a booking to guest for Greg Hancock with Reading at Arlington. Adam was on form and it worked out if Reading conceded a 4-2 in heat 7 they could bring Adam into heat 8 on a double points score. A rider had a retirement in heat 7 with a Reading rider getting a second, Adam went out in heat 8 and got the 6 points. Now, is that race fixing in the bookies eyes or as I feel, a tactical move? @racers and royals? 🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 8 minutes ago, IainB said: @racers and royals? 🤔 Tactical but i plead ‘ not guilty ‘ it wasn’t me that did that dastardly act lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveArena Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Having pondered it maybe you guys are right about bringing the bookies into the sport. We do need some big investment though so maybe Harry can do that using other contacts he has in the media and football. He is on Talk Sport quite a bit would they be interested in any commentary on Talksport 2 in the summer. The main Talk Sport station will be busy with the World Cup but they do have other sports on TS 2 sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 12 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Tactical but i plead ‘ not guilty ‘ it wasn’t me that did that dastardly act lol And don’t look at me.I was shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Betting on points scored by a rider is there now so in theory you could already have fixing. Realistically it's probably such a small market that anything looking even slightly dodgy would be flagged immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a4poster Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Here is the opening two paragraphs from the 2026 press release... (continue the each as you wish). "British Speedway will enter a bold new era in 2026 that is sure to excite fans across the country following their AGM at the weekend..." "Chairman of the BSPL, Rob Godfrey said he felt satisfied that the sport will be the real winner with all the promotors working collectively in the best interests of the sport..." 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 8 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, a4poster said: Here is the opening two paragraphs from the 2026 press release... (continue the each as you wish). "British Speedway will enter a bold new era in 2026 that is sure to excite fans across the country following their AGM at the weekend..." "Chairman of the BSPL, Rob Godfrey said he felt satisfied that the sport will be the real winner with all the promotors working collectively in the best interests of the sport..." We all await in suspense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said: We all await in suspense When is deadline day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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