daveallan81

If I'm correct, the Midlands v South Cup qualifying rounds were split into two groups. The Southern group (Eastbourne, Exeter, Plymouth & Southampton) seems to be in order. The Midlands group (Cradley Heath, Hanley, Tamworth & Wombwell) however seems to be missing a fixture, namely Cradley v Wombwell. The dates I have for Heathens Cubs(!) are: 04/07 at Wombwell 04/08 v Tamworth 04/08 at Tamworth 28/08 at Hanley 29/10 v Hanley (staged at Tamworth) The final was staged 05/11 so I'm surmising that following the 29/10 fixture the Wombwell match became a dead rubber and wasn't run. But was there any attempt to run it beforehand as I have no entry for a postponed fixture?

Yes indeed the 27th, apologies for that.

These are all Rye House meetings: 06/04, 04/05, 01/06, 22/07 and 03/08 are all dates only - anything take place? 20/04 Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS 15/06 Jim Coy's Team v Wally Green's Team 29-43 - DATE & RESULT 29/06 v Chalfonts - DATE & RESULT 13/07 Senior Challenge (IND) winner A. Flack - DATE & WINNER 07/09 Hertfordshire Championship ((IND) - DATE & WINNER

Cheers. The forum not a fan of Bert eh?

These are in track order (updated): 21/08 Rye House Best Pairs - Tie between M. Wood & J. Rodwell and J. Wright & T. Lack - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 09/10 Rye House Four Team - DATE, COMPETING TEAMS & RESULT 23/10 Rye House - date only - did anything take place? 17/04 California Individual winner: ? Peck - CONFIRM DATE, EVENT NAME & WINNER 19/06 California California Trophy - Tie between Billy Newell & Gerald Jackson - CONFIRM DATE & ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER 25/09 California - date only - did anything take place? 21/07 Edinburgh Press Charity Gala Sports Night scratch races - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 16/07 High Beech v Bishops Stortford - DATE & RESULT 16/07 Hull - date only - did anything take place? 21/05 Rayleigh World Championship QR - Tie between Alan Hunt & Will Lowther - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 15/05 Rye House Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS 05/06 Rye House Whitsun Trophy - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER 15/05 Southampton - practice - winner: Welch - CONFIRM DATE, EVENT NAME & WINNER 29/03 Southampton Charles Knott Trophy - winner ? Oakley - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER 10/05 Southampton North v South 36-48 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 05/07 Southampton World Championship QR - winner Fred Tuck - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER 16/08 Southampton Inter-Track Best Pairs - winners May & Boyd - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS 04/10 Southampton Leg Trailers v Foot Forward 34-50 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 11/10 Southampton Pre-War v Post-War 43-41 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 08/08 Wimbledon World Championship QR - Tie between Aub Lawson & George Wilks - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER?

I need to know which of these results are incorrect: Poole v Southampton 17/05 51-33 and 25/10 49-35 Southampton v Poole 13/07 56-27 and 26/10 58-26 *Updated

That puts that mystery to bed. Superb work as always, thank you.

A decent theory for sure. The Speedway Researcher Hastings file lists the 16/08 Southampton v Hastings fixture (at Poole) as the Anniversary Cup but the second leg (26/08 at Plymouth) as the North v South Anniversary Cup. The Yarmouth file has the tie with Hull as North v South (Cup) and the Hull file states North v South Cup Semi Final.

Excellent, thanks. My final conundrum concerns the third division North v South 21st Anniversary Cup. It appears that the two semi finals were Yarmouth v Hull and Southampton v Hastings, with Southampton going on to defeat Hull in the final at Cradley Heath. However I have 4 ties which don't seem to lead anywhere for the various winners: Exeter bt. Plymouth, Coventry bt. Poole, Tamworth bt. Cradley Heath and Hanley bt. Wombwell. What's going on?

Thanks. Good work as always. A small batch from Dublin Santry if anyone can add anything: 08/08 v Eastbourne - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 22/08 Date only - did anything take place? 05/09 Midland Select - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 12/09 v Belfast match postponed with an individual event replacing (?)

Were the two abandoned events scratch races?

Are we all finished? Good, I'll continue... These are in track order: 08/08 California - date only - did anything take place? 29/08 California Scratch Races - ANY RESULT(S) OR OUTRIGHT WINNER(S)? 12/09 California - date only - did anything take place? 10/10 California - date only - did anything take place? 13/06 Eastbourne Scratch Races - ANY RESULT(S) OR OUTRIGHT WINNER(S)? 27/06 Eastbourne Handicap - ANY RESULT(S) OR OUTRIGHT WINNER(S)? 23/10 Edinburgh v Fleetwood - fixture only - CONFIRM DATE, EVENT AND RESULT 03/05 Exeter Speedway Riders Championship QR tie between Wally Green & Bert Roger - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 24/06 Middlesbrough Speedway Riders Championship QR tie between Frank Hodgson & Jack Biggs - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 29/04 Plymouth Speedway Riders Championship QR tie between Pete Lansdale, Alf Bottoms & Jack Freeman - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 25/04 Rye House Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 23/05 Rye House v World Select - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 06/06 Rye House Arthur Flack’s Team v Sid Clarke's Team - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 04/07 Rye House - date only - did anything take place? 15/08 Rye House v Eastbourne - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 12/09 Rye House Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 20/04 Southampton Speedway Riders Championship QR winner Jimmy Squibb - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 18/05 Southampton Silver Trophy winner Stan Hodson - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT 01/06 Southampton v Hanley (NL Div 3) Rained Off - CONFIRM DATE 28/05 Wombwell Speedway Riders Championship QR winner ? Rogers - CONFIRM DATE AND RESULT

Excellent work as always, my thanks to you all. A couple here from Dublin Santry: 29/04 Described as Individual Championship - WINNER? 22/05 Versus English League - RESULT?

I have quite a few to tidy up here so I'll start with the 'main' queries: 23/03 Aldershot Easter Cup - Abandoned heat 3 - REASON FOR ABANDONMENT (HEAT TIMES DON'T POINT TO RAIN SO WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION) 26/04 Long Eaton v Aldershot Juniors 31-53 - CONFIRM DATE POSSIBLY 26/05? 26/05 Norwich v Glasgow (Nat. Trophy) Abandoned heat 3 - rain - CONFLICTING INFO RE. SCORE AT THE TIME 15-03 OR 14-04 04/06 Exeter World Championship QR - Hardy & Sargeant tied on 13 - ANY OUTRIGHT WINNER? 11/08 Long Eaton v Cradley Heath Rained off - CONFIRM DATE & EVENT 11/08 Swindon v Wolverhampton (NL Div. 2) Rained off - CONFIRM DATE And these which are all Southampton home related: 23/03 Southampton Charles Knott Trophy - Winner Harry (?) Edwards - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER 06/04 Southampton v Oxford (South Shield) Rained off - CONFIRM DATE 18/05 Southampton v Norway 60-23 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 19/06 Southampton v Ex-Saints 42-42 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT 10/07 Southampton World Championship QR Winner ? Oakley - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER 21/07 Southampton Gala Of Sport - CONFIRM DATE & ANY RESULT(S)

Can anyone assist with these: 02/05 Ipswich World Championship British Semi-Final - Smith & Doncaster finished tied on 11 - any run-off or outright winner? 24/06 Reading v Poole Rained off - CONFIRM DATE 09/07 Milton Keynes v Long Eaton Rained off - CONFIRM DATE 26/09 Ipswich v Reading Rained off - CONFIRM DATE 30/09 Exeter South West Open Championship winner: Dean Garton - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER 02/10 Long Eaton Dave Perks Farewell 4TT - CONFIRM DATE & SCORE OF JAN'S TEAM 07/10 Exeter Tony Sanford Memorial 4TT abandoned after heat 3 - CONFIRM DATE & SCORE AT TIME OF ABNDONMENT

The further back I go the more that needs resolving. Please excuse the length of the list (edited) and let me know if you can assist. The list is in club order: 06/04 Bothwell v Speedway World Novices - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 26/11 Bothwell v The Rest - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 11/06 California v Rye House - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 30/07 Eastbourne v California - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 19/08 Eastbourne v Rye House - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 15/04 High Beech v Epping Foresters - CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 22/07 High Beech v Rye House- CONFIRM DATE & OBTAIN RESULT 23/04 & 30/07 & 06/08 all at Rye House - dates only - DID ANYTHING TAKE PLACE?

I think that's enough evidence for the result to be included in the Glasgow list. Good work, sir.

The combination of the two Hull changes have solved the problem. Thanks for your efforts as I probably wouldn't have been able to resolve things on my own.

Interesting, thanks. Do you have a league table to compare it with the one on the SGB site here http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/history/leaguetables1948.php My figures show Poole scoring 1761.5 pts (SGB site shows 1760.5) and Southampton 2112.5 (SGB 2113.5).

I maintain a Glasgow results history file so my dilemna is whether or not to include the match in the results. The 13th May fixture is already included.

Yes I remember that being discussed. In light of that, I'll be taking the marked programme result as correct until proven otherwise.

Thank you both. I note two different scores being touted for 11/06 California v Rye House - I'm inclined to take the marked programme result but open to persuasion... BL65 - re. Bothwell 27/05 - Glasgow were at Hanley that day. Is there anything to tell whether this was a Glasgow Select (as in riders from that area) or a Tigers 'reserve' team?

Thanks

Thank you. That leaves a point kicking in one of the Poole v Southampton fixtures (original post edited).

The remaining 1951 queries: 25/03 California v The Rest - RESULT 08/04 California - Date only - ANY FIXTURE TAKE PLACE? 16/09 California v Beachcombers - RESULT 14/10 California - Date only - ANY FIXTURE TAKE PLACE? 11/10 Oxford - Open - ANY FIXTURE TAKE PLACE? 18/10 Oxford - Date only - ANY FIXTURE TAKE PLACE?