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Posts posted by Marky_Mark

  1. 15 hours ago, M.D said:

    Hi and Thank you,

    The Dugard's have doubled what the previous promotion paid in rent but its in line with a lot of tracks now..

    We are exploring every avenue but at the moment we are trying to see what sponsorship will be pledged before we do anything else.

    Ouch! The previous promotion made a loss and now you want to try and re-open paying double the rent!

    Don’t get me wrong you have my full support and I really hope you succeed but it’s going to be incredibly hard to get up and running and break even?

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  2. 6 hours ago, M.D said:

    That is the start up costs but as the article states, we are some way down that road already and talking to potential sponsors for next season..

    Hi there, very best of luck to you. I sure am missing my visits to Arlington this season, and it’s been one of my favourite tracks for many years.

    I’ll keep everything crossed for you but that’s a whopping start up cost and then it was already loss making.

    Interesting to read that the rent is double what you expected, does that mean the landlord has increased it since last season or it purely means that you estimated it and it was far more than expected.

    Any thoughts on doing a share scheme? 100 fans buying in at £1000 each for example?

  3. I honestly don’t understand what all the fuss is about using guests. Plymouth started the season with a full 7 riders and have lost 2 to serious injuries and 1 rider has quit the team so the situation is not of their own making.

    We know from pre season that teams were struggling to even fill their teams so there isn’t going to be a long list of riders out there to replace them with.

    As a spectator, I would rather spend my money going to to a meeting and watching a team with guests if needs be in order to make it a good meeting to watch with similar strength teams on track rather than punish their misfortune.

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  4. 1 minute ago, Rob B said:

    Scott Nicholls would be best in the pits role obviously when not riding. Never rated Crump as a commentator back when he uses to do Aussie GO  etc. Pickering was ok as a one off. Why isn’t Chris Louis being used?

    Because he would have been at Wolves v Ipswich as the Ipswich promoter 

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  5. 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

    Surely when a club folds their riders become the 'property' of BSPL?

    Usually yes, but technically they haven’t folded? Company is still trading and we are told it will pay all of its debts so in theory shouldn’t have their asset base stripped and would be able to sell or pass on to a new company prepared to run speedway?

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  6. 21 hours ago, cityrebel said:

    It does feel a bit final with the sale of Brennan. Any potential revival could have been built around him.

    Where have you seen that Brennan has been sold? I haven’t seen anything to say that he’s become a Glasgow asset, only that he’s been signed until the end of the season? 

  7. 1 minute ago, Marky_Mark said:

    Yes I’m surprised there wasn’t a call to arms, for example a crowdfunding type page set up for donations to try and get the team to the end of the season. Unless the debts were so high that they knew that wouldn’t scratch the surface, I mean after all we’re now hearing that the riders are owed SEVERAL meetings. 

    In fact the more I think about it, I would have several questions of the Eastbourne management team if they were prepared to answer;

    - Why was the break even figure set at such a high attendance coming out of lockdown, what outgoings were so high, overpaying riders, staff or unaffordable rent?

    - Why were fans not informed sooner that there were problems, speedway fans are a big community and don’t like to see any track close. It could have led to donations, offers of support and larger attendances?

    - Why did they enter and then continue with a National league side, as sad as it would have been to see them pull out, it may have been a sacrifice worth making to save one of the teams.

    - Why were the 2 owners/directors not licensed promoters and therefore having to employ 2 promoters. I could be wrong but does this somehow imply that the BSPL already had concerns and didn’t want to give them a promoters license?

    - They state that the company will continue to trade for 5-6 weeks and pay off everything they owe, does that include all outstanding rent and riders pay?

    - Why did they start a crowdfunding page for an air fence for next season knowing that they had financial problems and therefore were unlikely to even get to next season? Surely would have been more valuable to ask for funding to get through the problems first?

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  8. 1 minute ago, iainb said:

    Been thinking about the Eastbourne closure... why was it different to what's happened at Birmingham & Newcastle? Both of those were given opportunities to continue, fixtures rearranged to bring forward attractive opposition and go fund me pages setup. Eastboune, fixtures cancelled, press blackout and then closure!

    Yes I’m surprised there wasn’t a call to arms, for example a crowdfunding type page set up for donations to try and get the team to the end of the season. Unless the debts were so high that they knew that wouldn’t scratch the surface, I mean after all we’re now hearing that the riders are owed SEVERAL meetings. 

  9. 11 minutes ago, Bendonebunching said:

    Just been announced at Plymouth that the match against Eastbourne on the 7th September is off.

    Oh dear!! If they are already calling off meetings 2 weeks away then yes that does appear to be it.

    Really bad news for Eastbourne and British Speedway if it happens.

  10. 35 minutes ago, Piotr Pyszny said:

    It was this:

    We have been asked by the BSPL Management Committee not to make any detailed statement today, as we had planned.

    We remain in constant contact and communication with the Management Committee and they have requested us to make no further comment while various options and avenues are considered.

    Whilst we are sure that this is frustrating for you, our supporters – and for us – it does allow us the opportunity to optimise all our energies on working through various options and solutions for the short, medium and long-term future.

    Further detailed updates will follow as soon as possible.

    Typical BSPL though……communication and openness is definitely not their strong point and with Eastbourne having promised us an honest statement today, they have obviously requested that the club say nothing!

    Surely though as each day ticks past, this is going to get more and more difficult to rescue the season. Fixture dates running out, and riders missing out on other meetings if they haven’t been paid and want to be released to other teams, just 2 obvious things that spring to mind.

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  11. 9 minutes ago, SuperSpeed said:

    Rumours on Facebook via a sponsor that Lawson and Kennett have left, as has Ian Jordan (who allegedly owes thousands, both in rent and to the riders) and that an SCB investigation is underway.

    Ian has just confirmed that he has not left and there will be a factual statement released tonight.

    He has also stated that whilst there are known cash flow issues, everybody will be paid their money.

    Lets wait for the statement, as he has also said that lots of the rumours are inaccurate.

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  12. 57 minutes ago, ch958 said:

    why hasn't it been offered for someone else to promote

    Yes you beat me to it!

    I can understand the Hancock family not wanting to run without the income from the clubhouse contributing towards costs

    But.... there may well could have been a consortium/promoter out there willing to lease the track from them? Could have been made to work at NL level for example?

    Sadly the announcement clearly stating that’s it and it’s gone and the selling of the air fence reads to me like they have other ideas for use of the land the track sits on, particular if other units have gone up.



  13. It’s been confirmed that Danno isn’t in the team this year. With the points that they have left, they could have Connor King and it leaves approx 6.50ish left, I would say Jack Smith is probably the best value rider around that average. Others potentially in the frame around that mark would be Danny Halsey or Danny Phillips.

    So I don’t think Scott Campos will be in a heat leader position and therefore is good value on his low average, as although he struggles on some away tracks, he really does fly around the Smallbrook track

  14. Interestingly, there’s been lots of rumours about Tom Brennan, just worked out that had he been signed as number 5 on his average then in my team above Scott Campos would have fit at number 3 with 0.03 to spare but I’m sure I read that they couldn’t fit Scott into the team so maybe Alfie will return :)

  15. Great to see Ben back on the island, I’ll be over a few times from the mainland supporting this great promotion no matter what side gets put together but the highlight for me last year was Alfie Bowtell blasting round the track, is it possible that he could be accommodated too?  I notice that Ryan Terry-Daley is also not in the Plymouth side this year so I was thinking something like this:


    Ben Morley - 9.13

    Chris Widman - 3.32

    Ryan Terry Daley - 5.22

    Danno Verge - 4.83

    Alfie Bowtell - 9.24

    Jamie Sealey - 2.00

    Chad Wirtzfeld - 2.00


    A complete guess so I could be way out but anyway best of luck to Barry, Martin and all 7 riders that represent the 2019 team :)

  16. It was an enjoyable meeting despite Kent being comfortably in front throughout. Yes Alfie has been a great addition to the Islanders side and it's great seeing him ride, the race you mentioned was definitely the highlight of the night.

    For the Kings there were great performances from Jack Thomas and Taylor Hampshire in particular and Anders Rowe also looks a great prospect at just 16 years old.

    The poor Islanders are a bit battered and bruised at the moment especially with Widman now being on the sidelines, they definitely need to bring in a rider or 2 but think they have been struggling to find anybody. William O'Keefe looked a good prospect at reserve, is there any chance of bringing him in for the rest of the season?

    Oh just one thing that puzzled me, if the averages in the programme were correct the 1 rider above Widman's average that could have taken a R/R ride would have been Campos so I was a bit surprised that Verge, the 2 reserves and the number 8 took all the R/R rides? 

    Keep up the good work Barry and Martin and I hope for a change in fortunes on the track soon 




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