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Simmo how is he remembered?

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50 minutes ago, iris123 said:

Not so sure many would use the term legend.If you call Simmo a legend then there are many many that deserve the term as well

When he came to Plough Lane he dropped 2 points off his average and his best days were behind him

Although it's true he was past his best when rode for the Dons, but I would state that being a 4-time World Team Cup winner 3 World Pairs titles (with different partners) and a large collection of individual titles and what he achieved for his various teams as a rider and manager makes him a legend in my eyes. Post racing his excellent column in Backtrack magazine was always something worth reading - plus he gave his autograph many years ago as a child without any issue also made hi a top bloke to me.

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3 hours ago, iris123 said:

Not so sure many would use the term legend.If you call Simmo a legend then there are many many that deserve the term as well

When he came to Plough Lane he dropped 2 points off his average and his best days were behind him

I do a bloody good rider nobody can take away the fact  that Malc Simmons was a very very good rider over a number of years number 2 in the world not bad eh.!

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No not bad,but he isn’t that high up in the list of best rider never to win a world title is he?Les Collins,Chris Morton,Gordon Kennett John Louis are they all legends?And Tommy Knudsen,Bo Petersen,Dennis Sigalos,Billy Sanders Phil Crump etc.....How many legends are there just from the 70s and 80s?

Robbie B was making it sound an exclusive club,but then when you look at the criteria it doesn’t really sound like one

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There is no way I was trying to state that Malcolm Simmons has exclusive rights to be called a Legend regarding speedway that would be a completely stupid assertion of mine.

There are many riders that I admire right from the beginning of speedway starting in the UK that I would have loved to have seen riding and i wish that I had a time-machine to carry this function out.

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I wasn’t indicating you did think Simmons had ‘exclusive rights’,but asking if the riders I mentioned are also considered legends

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Legend is an overused and misused word.

I’ll tell you who is a legend - King Arthur. He’s a total ledge.

Is Simmo an all-time great of the sport? Hmm, probably not. But in purely England or Poole terms, absolutely. 

 

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3 hours ago, iris123 said:

I wasn’t indicating you did think Simmons had ‘exclusive rights’,but asking if the riders I mentioned are also considered legends

There are many parameters that can be used to decide whether a riders deserves legendary status not just how many World titles or other titles that they might have won. You could also include a riders loyal service to a particular club or length of riding within the sport. Plus their attitude towards fans etc. Because of this what one person thinks of a rider is a legend another will not, as you can never please everyone. You list is a good list of 70s and 80s riders and everyone will have their own opinion on the riders mentioned.

At the end of the day someone who wins multiple World Titles whether as an individual or within a team deserves all the credit for the efforts and most importantly the memories created and stored in the brains of those who witnessed them riding.

Take the TV show Pointless today the 16 most famous Londoners that featured David Beckham he is only famous for achieving club success and not internationally, and for being in magazines all the time, so I was surprised to see him mentioned. London has produced far more successful sportsmen and ladies over the years than him.

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Simmo rode speedway from 1963-87 then in 89 and 93.

 

He won the World pairs, was it 3 times in a row? World team cup winner multiple times and came 2nd in the individual World Championships.

 

He was also a team manager, track curator, promotor, quality grasstrack rider, done other motorcycle racing disciplines and had very interesting/insightful opinions on the sport!

 

His longevity, at his best, World class ability combined with his interesting character in my opinion makes him a legend! 

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On 19 September 2018 at 10:07 PM, Tsunami said:

Couldn't believe how they didn't crash more fighting to overtake on the square corners. I thought it was a terrible track for proper racing. Just 4 corners and 4 straights.

I'm not saying it was a perfect track, but it was my home track for 13 years and still managed to produce some good racing , battles between the likes of Briggs & Nordin, Crump & Collins, Eide & Olsen.  Etc. 

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On 19 September 2018 at 10:07 PM, Tsunami said:

Couldn't believe how they didn't crash more fighting to overtake on the square corners. I thought it was a terrible track for proper racing. Just 4 corners and 4 straights.

I'm not saying it was a perfect track, but it was my home track for 13 years and still managed to produce some good racing , battles between the likes of Briggs & Nordin, Crump & Collins, Eide & Olsen.  Etc. 

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I think Simmo's van had an automatic cut out that stopped it making it to Belle Vue ..either that or he got a nose bleed coming that far north !

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