wtf

Think several riders are going to come out of this looking pretty stupid pinning their flags to the mast on twitter without even considering that there may be two sides to any story.

I think a few people need to take a breath for a minute and just think through what they are saying. I understand emotions are running high, but from the outside looking in, this looks a lot like trial by social media. All I ever hear on this forum is that people are entitled these days to their opinion. From what I can see some people have expressed their opinion in private. Whether you agree, disagree, whatever? is expressing your opinion in private bullying? I don't know I guess society will tell us. If that is not the case then maybe Phil Lanning should make public what he keeps threatening to on twitter as at the moment the some of us are struggling to see the reason for what is becoming a social media lynch mob. I'm finding it very difficult to see clearly through all the mud, and I'm trying to be rational rather than emotional. I understand completely the desire to protect your son as Jonny the Spud alluded to. But if you want to slaughter people publicly for something they have done in private I think care needs to be taken to make sure people are not over reacting. It's difficult to have an opinion when you don't know all the "facts" and no doubt people will disagree with this one. But does that make it a hanging offence? I don't know. I just think a few people need to take a breath , take a step back and count to 10 first.

Think you'll find he stuck two fingers up to the DMU

Very different showground this year though

Think that depends which Berge turns up, but I would tend to agree

No he isn't on his own, but he is an improvement on what a couple of the current riders are doing with the track you now have. If you want a magic button that's going to instantly make Panthers title contenders, why don't you trot off down the bottom of the garden, go shake the magic money tree and make everything better. Easy to stand there and tell everyone what's needed but someone has to pay for it, and it's clear the present owner isn't willing to. It's easy for Neil to say how everything would have been affordable under Ged but the fact is he DID sell the club yet Neil seems to tell us he didn't need to , everything was affordable and it would have been a bumper season. What like the last few where the begging bowl constantly came out. Panthers have a number of problems, from the top to the bottom. But it does seem to me that a number of Panthers fans seem to think they are entitled to a successful season and that the somehow throwing their toys out the pram will make it all better.

Bates would be worth a shot because he makes starts and right now with that track, that is more important than ever. As BWD is finding out, gating is much more important at the showground this year means he can try all he likes, he's struggling to make an impression.

I don't think it will last long, I just think someone found a box of wristbands and thought lets use them up

Colin's main role at the moment seems to be handing out wristbands in the pits

Pretty sure if anyone else had come up with some actual money when the previous promotion were selling up and looking to get out, then Buster would not be the owner now. I don't like the way he has gone about things, I don't like what he did, but he is also the only reason you have speedway at all right now in Peterborough. It's very easy to talk this and that, where's your actual money

I think the reality of the last 6 months is that the previous promotion put together an exciting team, that would have ridden the old showground well and have been nailed on for the play offs and a good shot at success. However, they sold the club for reasons best known to themselves. Buster comes in with a whole load of motives, and from that moment the Peterborough fans have been fed whatever information would keep them quiet and content for the longest time until the truth started to come out. The Team started to get dismantled to fix other Suffolk based problems as the current owner is balancing 3 plates not one, and was further dismantled due to an employee thinking he was bigger than the employer. That was never going to work as both sides refused to compromise. Then comes the track. Since press and practise the track was treated to at least 90 tonnes of (Busters finest) mix of clay and granite, which funnily enough is what is primarily on the Kings Lynn track. Shock horror the track now rides very much like Kings Lynn, sucking horsepower and remaining quite grippy all night and not developing an outside line so readily as the inside fails to slicken off as the meeting progresses. The strength of the original team with Wright BWD, Barker and Lasse was always the ability to ride the fence. That is no longer the quickest way round the showground. A forceful move up the inside or a cut back is now the overtake of choice. The final slap in the face was last Monday. Buster apparently spent the day preparing the track for the local derby, and then spent the entire meeting in the pits as the Peterborough owner wearing his Kings Lynn jacket and when asked if he had a Peterborough one simply said, "No" "I'm Kings Lynn through and through" Not sure what we were expecting, but I would have hoped he would either wear the colours of the home team when at home, or remain neutral. Oh hang on a minute, it's Buster Scott Nicholls I would have thought is unlikely to come in. The wage offer won't have changed since the winter. The Riders have (probably) been working harder on getting a replacement rider in to use the extra 3 points more than the owner. There are very much two divisions in the Premiership I would suggest. Best of Busters clubs, and then the real Premiership. I think the biggest problem buster has at the moment is that Ipswich have gone from looking dreadful before the start of the season, to a bit too good for Busters liking and might become a threat. So watch out witches fans, keep looking over your shoulder, you're doing a bit too well right now. One Man is both saving and destroying speedway in equal measure right now.

Sounds like a standard Peter Clarke meeting, just make it up as he goes along.

Firstly, Troy doesn't ride for Buster, so I don't see what that has to do with it. Secondly any employee who wants to dictate terms to their employer better be pretty sure they are irreplaceable before they do so. and cut their nose off to spite their face. This whole thing is about who thinks they have the power. I'm no fan of a lot of what Buster does, but I would not employ someone and then have them tell me what they are going to do and how they are going to do it and that I should be grateful for it. If Cook is such a messiah, why did Belle Vue decline to use him.

The last 90 ton that went on was a clay and granite mix. At the moment the inside isn't going as slick as before and as a result there is still a lot of grip when riding the track around the inside hence the times are quick. It actually according to the riders needs a bit of old style shale on it to allow the inside to slicken off a bit during the meeting and allow more of a dirt line to develop, so there is a benefit of going out wide. The track is super smooth at the moment but the top surface could do with a little tinkering with to develop it to suit the group of riders you have. At the moment it's a little too like Kings Lynn. Which is hardly a surprise. Hope fully there will be an appetite to get the tracks character back by modifying the top surface over the coming weeks. Heat 14 against Poole perfect example, Aaron gates and clamps the curb, Charles comes round the outside to join him, can't quite get there over the first lap as the speed difference isn't enough, (and you would expect Wrighty to be as quick as anyone on the outside late in the meeting) ends up tucking in behind Aaron and they both pull away from the Poole riders by riding a pretty narrow line. In the Past you would have either been on the fence or have your front wheel on the grass. Early days, I think the track is better than before, and Buster has used materials he knows well, which is no surprise. Now he needs to allow the track to develop so it's different from Lynn, not the same

Probably not as much, no, But he did shepherd Jack Smith around Sheffield last year in a very similar vein

For me Chris is still one of the top 5 riders in the world on natural ability. It's always been the other bits that have let him down. On Ability he's the best rider in this league bar none. The more he can involve people like Matt Read in his backroom staff the more his results will improve.

He averaged more than harris last season, so it wouldn't stun me

Nobody needs to sign a contract when they buy a happy meal from you,

I think people will see what they want to see to a degree. Scunthorpes faithfull who are used to seeing a lot of passing week in week out will have seen it as a processional meeting, whereas those used to the FTG Leicester stuff will have seen a much better meeting than usual. I guess it depends what you are used to. It was a better than usual meeting at Leicester and provided more entertainment than usual, but it certainly wasn't like what was served up the night before.

Good luck trying to get Ty to be a bit calmer. Team managers have been trying to get that for the last 10 years without any success.

Don't understand how the race format changed anything. in the normal league format the opposition 1&5 are out in 7 of the first 13 heats then both probably in heat 15?

No the track wasn't too grippy, it was the smoothest and most consistent it has been for many years and as such produced racing where very few mistakes were made. The problem for Panthers was that Belle Vue had a very good top two who got out the starts better and were not going to be caught easily from there. The starts were a bit different from press and practise so the home riders had to adapt a bit more there, but generally Belle vue were better from the start and didn't make mistakes. If Lasse had scored 4 point panthers would have won the meeting, but hey don't let that stop the doom and gloom merchants from predicting the end of the world. They are a heat leader and 3 points short, which is a shame because Charles will score like a heat leader at home all year, and coming from 2nd string that's where the strength is. Over the next few weeks I reckon Panthers will look for a permanent replacement at heatleader. During this time they can have a look at the bottom 3 and see who is performing best

Haha, I believe the saying is...….. Don't believe everything you read in the papers. I think there is some reverse engineering going on

Signing on fees (what's left of them) are not usually paid until the start of the season, so I doubt anyone will have had anything out of either club yet

It's a real shame what has happened, but in any walk of life once you introduce human beings you introduce a tendency for greed. There will always be those who get round the system. Introduce a set rate and people will be handing out brown envelopes left right and centre. Same in Poland right now. There is the PZM agreed rate for each league and then the "top ups" When the riders aren't getting paid, they go to the PZM and the best they will get is their agreed rate. Personally I think anyone looking to be a full time professional in the National League only is wrong. It should be a hobby which also goes someway towards financing itself. But the league has been screwed up for some time. I remember in 2012 a reserve rider at a club "overseas" being paid twice what a number 1 rider was being paid. Everything gets ruined when you introduce humans