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Eric Boocock was “connected” to Nigel Boocock, but that didn’t mean they should have ridden for the same team. Wayne and Tony Briggs were “connected” to Barry Briggs, but that didn’t mean they had to ride for Swindon or Southampton. Andy Smith is a Belle Vue legend. Jack isn’t. Yet. Who knows, it might happen one day, but how can you claim someone should have signed for the Colts because of a “connection” when, in his short career, he has ridden for Birmingham, Glasgow, Sheffield, Swindon (and the Colts), and whose registration is held by Glasgow (and he was born in Stoke)? That’s a lot of “connections”.

So, you are now saying that, when you posted the comment: “Richie Worrall left Glasgow before signing for Poole or around a similar time.” that was not meant to be factual? So what was it meant to be? Deliberately false? I have no allegiance to Poole but I have noticed that you have an apparently insatiable desire to knock anything the Poole team, the promotion and the supporters say and do? Someone mentions the name of a potential signing and you immediately find a negative. I’m not having a go at you, I’ve no idea who you are, but I am concerned at your negativity. It cannot be good for your general well being finding pleasure in criticising others.

I love the way you post unsupported comment as fact. Richie Worrall started riding for Poole in May and was still riding for Glasgow in July. Hardly leaving Glasgow “before or around a similar time”. Also he quickly switched from Glasgow to Edinburgh so his travelling was just about the same. So why would the commute, if (a) he is signed, and (b) he is in fact commuting, affect him? I fear your need to have a kick at anything to do with Poole may be affecting your judgement.

That’s the wrong answer. Jack is connected to Andy who is connected to the Aces. But Jack has no direct connection. That’s like saying that Richard Lawson was connected to Glasgow because of Steve. Richard was riding for many years before signing for Glasgow. And then look how that worked out. Next you’ll claim that Jason Crump should only have ridden for Swindon because that’s where Phil rode for many years.

In what way is Smith “connected” to Belle Vue?

Rob Ledwith?

Dumped, not retired

Andy Smith maybe, not Jack. Isn’t Jack “owned” by Glasgow?

That’s one version......

Wouldn’t you?

Whilst all of this is very worthy, much of the “tax write off” stuff is nonsense. Further, it’s rather rude to suggest that AV would be trying to hoodwink HMRC. arnieg has touched on some of the aspects, but easiest if dishonest John just has a look at the extended note 12 in AV’s 2017 accounts. This shows large disallowables which are to do with Glasgow Speedway. There is this wonderful myth that speedway promoters run teams as some form of smart tax dodge. Even if some speedway losses are allowable against another business, that would only be at the effective tax rate of around 20%. I know supporters think that some promoters aren’t the smartest people around but why would you lose, say £100k just to save £20k in tax?

How do you make that out? If MCC were owed money they’d come looking for it. The previous promotion maybe reneged on paying rent, though that may well have been resolved in the claim and counterclaim for the problems with the track, but I don’t think for a moment that the current promotion haven’t paid MCC every penny demanded.

SR 16.2.4 doesn’t differentiate between leagues. It just refers to a professional league. But it then doesn’t specify an average, only refers to a grading list. And that will be a BIG secret somewhere. I assume Becker at Wolves will be affected the same way

Both EBITDA and FME are means to derive a value using earnings, not assets

On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much?

I’ve just had a look at http://www.poolepirates.co/store.html There’s loads there although, not surprisingly, some sizes are out of stock. As there’s no pop up shop - maybe Matt’s too busy with his new business - then it’s unlikely they’d have reordered in the hope of an occasional buyer. What’s available from other teams?

The man in the know......

Have you allowed for the 2.5% reduction for Brits? Oh, wait a minute......

Ah! Never heard him called “Ken” before. Thought it might have been Ken Eyre. Or Ken McKinlay!

Sorry if I’m being thick, but who is Ken?

FRN has always been the wrong expression. The agreement relates to priority. Subject to the agreement of the teams whose standard race night it is, any team can ride on any night. The problem was (a) getting your own 1-7 together on the chosen night and (b) getting an opposition 1-7 willing to come. PL operated in 2018 with the protected race nights of Monday and Thursday but that didn’t stop Poole and KL regularly, and others spasmodically racing on a Wednesday, a night on which Denmark has protection.

Erm, like what? Ford put together what many thought was a winning 1-7 only for it to fall apart at P&P when Holder had to admit he didn’t have a work permit. So Kildemand signed on a short term deal in the hope the Holder situation would resolve. Which it never did. So he kept plugging away trying to get a winning team. Which eventually happened. He didn’t give up like many others, or run for months on end with r/r. In speedway, there is no magic so no guarantee that decisions will always be good. But, a team that fell apart before the beginning of the year that ended up being league champions can only do that if there were more good decisions than bad. 5 league wins in the last 8 years is hardly evidence of someone who makes poor decisions.

Looking at this post, it would be understandable if would be promoters just gave up, knowing their audience was ungrateful supporters. Of course they care for supporters and the advancement of the sport, otherwise we wouldn’t have had Redcar, Leicester or the NSS. Various people have tried to get a site for Bristol, as they have for Cradley and other places. Each attempt costs time, energy and money. They don’t give up because they don’t care about supporters but because there are too many hurdles. In future, someone thinking about Bristol may well look at your post and think all supporters are like you, ungrateful of their efforts, and query why they are bothering.

Hasn’t changed the fact that he’s got a face like a wet weekend and behaves like he’s a superstar when he’s still got much to prove

With respect, I struggle to see what good - for the rider and the team - having Kyle Bickley in a Premiership team would be. He has failed to reach his 2 point Championship starting average and really needs to substantially exceed that before moving up. I’m not knocking him in any way - in my view, he arrived with too much hype and needs to gain more experience, and points, before thinking about moving up. The bravest thing for him to do would be to say no to the top league until he has become a Championship top scorer.