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Not sure you would really find the British promoters working together with a plan.They are all basically out for themselves and are willing to knife another in the back,so they ain't going to co-operate with foreign promoters.This always makes me laugh when Humphrey trots out how European promoters should have formed a collective to run the world championship themselves.But the more things come out the more it seems to me that it is the same attitude in other countries.Look after no.1 and to hell with the rest

Yes indeed.A great deal......the same coverage as the SEC gets Tbh,the Ice Speedway was pretty boring even for an enthusiast like me.By the end of a lot of heats the riders were so strung out i often thought maybe there was only the one finisher......until the next rider came into view.And even here in Germany the German guy,who is the same guy who does the speedway got a fair bit of criticism(going into detail about which village in the back of nowhere most riders came from and what they do for a day job etc..),so it isn't just GB coverage

But no need to counter with some propaganda from the other side!!! Cardiff isn't our national stadium and i thought parken was being used this year because of the DMU jubilee otherwise it would have been dropped? It is good news though with Warsaw.No need to go ott and no real need to take much notice of a poll on sportowefakty.The Poles are moaners just like a lot of speedway fans.They were talking about a boycott when the new silencers came in......and even if just 45% of Polish fans turn up then the stadium will be full i'd guess

Actually i know of someone who was seeking and was successful with getting (i think )two sponsors in Russia for Emil.I have no idea of how big the sponsors were and i din't ask as the conversation was more about doing thankless work for riders.As it happens the person was a day or so after telling me this,thanked by Emil...... That doesn't really change anything though as i am sure people often try and help out with sponsorship.

Unless someone starts an internet campaign to raise money for him.There was one this winter for Kevin Wölbert,as it seemed he was about to give up speedway because he was skint,and i read earlier there is one for a Dutch Ice Speedway rider,so why not for Emil?

Only managed to catch sundays meeting on Eurosport.Unfortunately imo it was a pretty poor meeting.Most heats were sorted after about 50m and by the last lap they were strung out!!! Only got interesting in the last few heats when the Russians were up against each other,apart from a tussle between Svensson + Aakko.Hope the saturday meeting was a lot better

You were talking about One Sports media mouthpiece,i was talking about one of BSI's.It makes it hard if the discussion has been going on for over a year and someone comes in after about 10 months.I am not going to seek out all the stuff from months ago.I expect people to search that out for themselves.But of course Phil can come here and tell you he has mentioned it on a number of occasions to make it all easier As it is i am not for or against either competition or company.I think they have both made improvements to the sport and bring something to the table both for fans and riders,although One Sport are just starting out.It is noticeable that one or two sponsors that have dealt with BSI are somewhat critical.Meridian Lifts and now Nice.Quite possibly given time sponsors etc will come out and be critical of One Sport.

You just have to do a search of Phil Risings posts.I certainly ain't going to.And i doubt Phil will deny mentioning the fact on more than a couple of ocassions

Oh,i don't know.Sounds like a pretty good idea to me

Well i guess they are only following suit as BSI have been doing the subject to death for months through their mouthpiece

You asked the question,not One Sport.I guess they know what they are paying.You asked!!! Anyone that has followed the various discussions on this forum would have noticed that the imbalance in fees paid is a subject often bought up by Phil Rising,who is quite close to BSI

Think a lot is just making a mountain out of a molehill.We had it before years ago.The Internationale was as good as if not often a better line-up as the world final.There is nothing basically in speedway stopping one or two promoters getting together and starting a one off big money meeting or a series.It isn't going to be called the world final because it isn't.It happened before in speedway that we had more than one world title and it happens in other sports,but this isn't a world title.And with at least a couple of Australian riders looking like featuring in the top echelons of the sport this title won't,like i said feature all the best riders.

But can anything compete with the world title?It shouldn't be possible.For a start it is conceivable that the SEC might not have, say the top three riders in the world.That is a big drop in standard for a start, as there are really so few top class riders.The FIM have also made the world U21 title into a series.I don't see why another competition can't go the same way.There is no getting away from the fact it is a lower level series.Just they seem to have got some things right,like European wide free tv coverage.At least it is free to my house,so that is a big,big plus

But it is a nothing title as a number here have stated.So the same money for a nothing title is good for the riders surely.And why would the FIM ask or expect the same for a nothing title as for the world title?Seems strange to even bring up the subject

In all fairness i quite agree and have stated some of the things that have been put in this post. A lot of opponents on here keep saying the title of SEC is nothing,i have been to a number of Euro Championship meetings before One Sport took over.....low key affairs.Now they have changed all of that imo and the opinion of a lot of others.So why should they pay the same or similar as BSI when the title is meaningless?They should only pay the going rate for a second level title.The fact that they have turned things around shouldn't be held against them

I'd guess you have to win a GP to make much out of one.But even a day or so Ecclestone was in the paper answering a question about a lot of the F1 teams complaining that they aren't making money.He was saying they should cut back on the luxury mobile homes and all the trappings etc rather than going for slower more fuel efficient cars.He wants speed and noise.You then look at what some of the speedway riders have.The amount of bikes and equipment and then probably a couple of mechanics.That all comes out of the cost,so a rider who struggles in the GPs must be making quite a loss even with 12,000 up front

I wonder how much they promote speedway to the outside world.I have to admit i was in Prague a week after the SWC and saw a few posters around the city.On the other hand i have not seen anything around the Vojens area apart from in the main streets.Also the new IMG European Rallycross meeting held in a nearby town was imo very poorly promoted.By luck i was in the area a week before the meeting and although i saw quite a number of posters(20 or more along the main streets in most towns and villages in the general area) advertising a medieval festival i only saw one poster when we stopped at a petrol station.There was only a tiny write up before in the paper and i saw nothing of the results afterwards and they are a giant in the field we are told.Quite disappointed as i was thinking of going,but only saw the stuff too late to make arrangements

Quite agree Humph.At the moment the Hamburg side,who are ever present in the Bundesliga(i think the only team)are on the verge of getting relegated for the first time.They have just yesterday lost one of their main players, who was in the german squad for the first time,because he was injured in squad training!!!It really could cost them millions if they get relegated,partly through missing thier top scorer in the vital run-in

I think it has been documented that Emil has problems with the MFR in the past and he is not the only Russian rider.So that might explain any possible failure to ride for Russia.

No.When crops are ready to harvest there is a limited time to do it or they will go bad and prices rocket sky high.It is essential t ehey are harvested as quickly as possible.It is similar with road works.It is generally essential that they are done through the night so as to cause as little disruption as possible.Near me on the motorway they are normally done from 22:00 until 05:00 otherwise there would be chaos and again it would cost millions in delays to industry etc.Some things can't be compared to a fairly unimportant sports stadium.You have picked one of those in food production

Some things are essential for our existence,some things are not...........do you see where i am going with this?Do you not understand the difference?

I am not one who puts the blame on BSI.For me the problems lie soley with the FIM and since Castagna has taken over we have gone from bad to worse......

Football has always allowed some swapping up to a certain age or level i think.But at around U21 level you have to choose and are stuck with your choice.Had some tugs of war in Germany in the past year or so.One quite recently with a young Turkish/German player,who ended up choosing Turkey.I think that is quite reasonable if you qualify to play for a couple of countries to wait until you are no longer classed as a youth. In the case of Kylmäkorpi he gets the best of both worlds.His Swedish licence help him in the Swedish leagues and his fyling the Finnish flag helps him with a home Longtrack GP and now most probably the wc in the Finnish speedway GP.Obviously if he is after a SWC medal then he would need to ride for Sweden.But it would be crazy if he could choose to ride for Sweden one year and then Finland the next and maybe swap back again.....

I thought there was no threat to withdraw,it was some rubbish from his manager?Anyway the Finnish GP is almost a home GP or so we were told.......another sad day for the sport

Yes,but that doesn't alter what i was pointing out.That Joonas wasn't classed as Swedish just because he held a Swedish licence although he could ride as a Swede because of his citizenship.He has been riding as a Finn with or without a Finnish licence. Do wonder though, how often he could swap back and forth as i think he was listed in the preliminary Swedish SWC squad.Think at least in this respect football seem to have got it right and won't allow swapping around