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BCP council are morally & financially bankrupt. Unfortunately I believe that you are correct in your assessment of the situation.

Don't worry, I'll cover for you. Friday works for me, I work on Wednesday nights so this will be my first meeting of the season. I'm up for a bit of glory hunting 😁 The wife is away for the weekend so Speedway on Friday, Hamworthy-Utd on Saturday & AFCB on Sunday... Sorted 👍

The problem is, 'a lot' of speedway fans isn't very many these days unfortunately. I would suggest though, that there's a significant number of football fans that are casual Speedway fans and boost the attendances at big meetings like playoffs & finals, so It's probably best to avoid clashes if possible. I still maintain that the death knell of Cardiff was pitching it against the opening day of the football season.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/25393543.local-fight-starts-swindon-speedway-stadium-plans/ The sound of an aircraft landing that can be heard 10 miles away. It sounds awful!! Who wrote the leaflet? Clark Osborne?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vd0xv7nw2o Apologies if it's been posted elsewhere, but this was on the BBC news page today, in case anyone missed it.

My thinking is that by awarding 20, 18, 16 for the podium & points scored over 5 rides for the rest, is this. In my opinion, the LCQ should be just that. A last chance to prove that you can beat the guys who finished in front of you in qualifying. That chance is the reward for winning the LCQ. If you give 16 points for trailing in last in the final, there's the potential to enhance a 6 point total by a further 10 points for winning just one race in 7 when a 15 point max in qualifying can only be enhanced by 5 by winning the final. Going back to risk versus reward, I think that the the final would be much more competitive when there's potentially more points to gain by finishing 3rd, rather than one point difference to finishing last. I think the problem that the FIM and others had, was when the guys who were holding the trophies & spraying champagne were outscored. I don't think many would have a problem with the last place rider getting only his qualifying score.

I was about to post something very similar. Having seen a few rounds now, it doesn't sit right with me that a rider scoring 6 points over his five rides can trump a rider who has scored 11 by finishing higher in an LCQ. My preferred option would be 20-18-16 for top 3 and everyone else getting the points from their 5 heats. Why score extra points for finishing last in the final?

I'm sure you'll be back next year, along with 6399 others. I think Dean's point is that no matter how good the racing is, and even if all the problems encountered this year are resolved, how do you attract the missing thousands when you only have a 6400 capacity and there isn't room for them? The event can't grow at Belle Vue unless the capacity is increased. Unfortunately that can't be justified for a once a year event.

Maybe you should have asked him instead of your barbed comment.

No need to apologise. Your post was easy enough to understand. Unfortunately the forum is plagued with clever cnuts who think that their superior grasp of spelling or grammar make their opinions more valid. Unfortunately the grammar police don't have the intelligence to realise how boring they are, or that their attempts to demean others contribute nothing to the discussion.

Are you calling the temporary stand the big stand? If so, I reckon it's around 3400. Yes, I was sad enough to count the dots 😁 Stadium info that I've found online says 1800 seats in the main stand & 1200 standing in the south stand. That would make it 6400, which ties in with Wiki & other sources which say 6500 capacity with temporary stands.

The million or so people that attended football matches on the day of the Cardiff GP maybe? 🤔 I would suggest that there are a significant amount of fans that follow both their football and Speedway teams. Also Speedway fans who no longer have a track to attend, who usually went to Cardiff, but opted to watch their football team instead. Just looking at some of the user names on this forum, which is a small cross section of fans, shows a few with an affinity to a football team. Out of the small number of Speedway teams left, Manchester, Sheffield, Poole (Bournemouth) Leicester, Ipswich, Birmingham, Oxford & Plymouth had teams playing in the Premier league or EFL championship that day. Myself, along with 5 others who always went to Cardiff opted to go to Forest instead, to watch Bournemouth. Shovvy said on here, that he did too. I can't believe that out of that million that went to football that day, that we are the only ones that would have attended Cardiff if it was at it's traditional June/July (pre football season) date.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to last years GP. Nobody will convince me that going head to head with the opening day of the football season didn't significantly affect the attendance.

It's a shame that whoever thought it was a good idea to pitch last year's Cardiff GP against the opening day of the Premier League season & a full football league programme didn't have the same foresight. Madness!!

I'd say that risk v reward comes in to play whatever the format. Many times I've watched team speedway on TV, where a team are comfortably in front and sit on a 2nd & 3rd with the commentators saying "3-3's will do them all night long." My point was that with this new GP format, it makes it more important to fight for every point than in last years format and the LCQ's are a lot harder to qualify from than the old semis. I'll admit that 10th place qualification didn't sit right with me when it was first announced. Having seen how it works though, I prefer it to last years format.