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As happenned throughout the 80s where 5 spots were reserved for (with a handful of exceptions) sub standard riders from the continental qualifying round.

You are so right steve. Haters gonna hate. I think the only way he is going to win back the hesrts of the bsf is if he converts to Islam.

Id say your right parsloes, but tbh more for the fact that it meant England's only realistic world champion of that era was no more, rather than the tragic/macabre/horrific nature of his actions.

Ffs. I think every single person on here enjoy s watching ward race, more so than practically every other rider. Almost all would like to see him fulfil his potential. No one has indicated they would like him to stuff up again - if only because we are selfish and dont want to be deprived of watching one of the most entertaining riders of all time. That does not mean we approve of his past off track actions.that lack of approval does not mean we have never made mistakes, but it is a fallacy to argue that most have made mistakes of a similar nature to ward. And tbh, I couldnt care less if ward is arrogant, and its quite possible he could win the world title without the ultra professional approach ttai took last year. However, come the end of his career, injuries not withstanding, if he hasnt been a multi world champ he will have to be regarded as having wasted his tslent.

ok but what you said was this i'm merely pointing out that in the same forum as these comments were aimed at Ward, similar comments have been aimed at other riders, hich is seemingly contrary to what you posted.

On the bsf. Search under carter or lee to see people's opinions on them. That said, the only time ive been sworn at on the bsf was when I had the temerity to suggest that kenny carter's crime was more serious than jerran hart's.

Perhaps because no other speedway riders have been before the courts on similar chsrges?Tbh I have seen kenny carter and mike Lee referred to in similar terms. Perverts! In nz we might love our sheep a little too much, but we would never stoop to donkeys. With tongue as well ?!? [quote name="Oldace" post="2410741" timestamp="1393358 Which of the four am i. Can i be mr fantastic?. I think its only appropriate that blaze is the hunan torch. As sid loves to point out bewitcher is never seen at el meetings so he has to be invisible woman. I guess that means Orion has to be the thing.

Would have loved to see them meet at the shay at their peaks. Pc rode it very well, lee famously destroyed carter in the golden helmet in 83.

So if there are only six riders u think csn win, and u rate nki as having as good a chance as any, then surely 10/1 is good value? What odds would u consider good value? U could bet on tai holder hampel and nki and if any of them won you'd be tripling your money.

Can get 10/1 on hampel holder and nki which seems like good value to me?

Peterborough decent value at 8/1? Holder hampel and nki all look good value @ 10/1 for the world title. Dirty nicki surely a better chance than the 18/1 available. Tai at 5/1 not too bad either - all the above look even more appealing if emil were to withdraw.

Have to agree with that, there are four teams that I can conceivably see as champs ( poole kl bv and coventry) and while realistically I can see any team other than brum leicestet and lakeside as potentially making the play offs, I cant see the champ s being anyone from outside that four (without major team changes).

I think some confusion, by so high scb was meaning so highly favored (I.e. surprised odds so low). Lukasdryml agree ing and saying 10/1 a fairer price. Consensus seems to be eadtborne have a good draw (I.e. meeting teams when those teams are understrength).

Yes your right who on here has never been before the courts on serious sex offence charges who are we to say its wrong to shove vodka bottles up drunk fans who hasnt tried to escape the police while under the influence I oppologise on behalf of all the mother theresas on here for dsring to suggest that any of those actions are wrong god nos no ones perfect

Aces at 8/1 look best value Kings lynn decent vslue at 3/1 also

Would you say most people have inserted a vodka bottle into an extremely drunk teenager? Fled from the police on a motorbike while under tge influence? I would suggest 99% of people on here have not done nothing like this.Im a big fan of ward tge speedway rider, and disagree with those who say he doesnt use his head - to me he has a superb racing brain seeing options other riders do not - BUT I can totslly understand those who dislike him because of his behaviour outside speedway

And under gp scoring he wouldnt have won the title.But he is clearly one of the six or seven riders with a genuine world title chance.

Are you forgetting that a barely fit tai battled his way to the world title last year?

Favourite for me this year, but like others have said, not attractive at those odds. Was tge best rider in auckland last year, despite a poor draw with two heats off gate 4, so will be interesting to see how he goes this year and may put a small bet on him winning that.

Because bill Buckley was willing to front the cash, and it enabled an extra gp to be run very early in the European season.

Have been no tac subs in the el for a number of years now.

In what competition?

But speedway star is online now?

I think its reasonably obvious that you'd charge more for rights to host gps in a country where a. There are a lot of tracks keen to host them and a good attendance is guaranteed, than in a country where neither of the sbove applies. Thats not anti polish, just common sense.

In what way have bsi got themselves into this? They have a contract with fim, what other business can you nsme would say "I think we are making too much profit, and the company we pay our license fee to doesnt seem to be shsring it sround equitably, so lets just pay out some extra money? The only way I can see an argument thst bsi is perhsps to blame is by asking too high a fee to host events, as pz alludes to. However, surely the answer is for cities to say"no thanks not at thst price." Yet Bsi dont seem to be lacking in venues willing to pay to host events though, albeit the large losses in nz making it unlikely to continue here beyond 2014.