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In an ideal world of course the decision should be given immediately but we don't live in an ideal world. Those who pompously tell us it's taking too long don't know why it is taking this long or why the rules allow up to 45 days. I doubt that it is just a figure they plucked from the air. At one end of the scale it could simply be that they are totally incompetent , which is what some are happy to believe. At the other extreme we don't know what issues have been raised, or what other material has to be researched to ensure the decision in consistent with similar cases in other motor sports or sport generally. The truth may lie somewhere between the two but the point is we simply do not know the reason for the delay and those who speculate are merely guessing. Similarly we don't know why it took so long to get to the tribunal. For all anyone on here knows it could be that it was Darcy's side that wanted it put back. Again people are simply guessing when they don't have all the facts. I wish some people would take a deep breath before they sound off without the information. It's bad enough hearing Muddlo's rantings with forum members doing the same.

If you read my post again what I said was none of us really know what was actually said. It is you that keep persuing the idea that Darcy must be correct in saying there would be a decision in 7 days, even though that was not actually what he said on Twitter. When had Darcy ever said or done anything off-track when he didn't open himself to ridicule? Leaving aside his indiscretions in the rape case, the drug related episode in Australa, and the mysterious incident in the pub with Muddlo, his comments in this matter alone expose him to ridicule. First is the excuse that he didn't re-hydrate properly which would have absolutely nothing to do with sobering up, then we have the excuse that he had just heard that his parents had broken up but it turns out he knew that at least a couple of weeks before, and so it goes on. It's more than mere coincidence that controversy follows him around. Look at Darcy and look at Tai Woffinden, another world class rider of the same age. Darcy's immaturity stands out like sore thumb.

Muddlo wasn't there so he wouldn't know. What Darcy actually said on twitter was "next week they will make a call". That can be interpreted in a variety of different ways. The truth is none of us really know what was said . After Darcy's excuse about not rehydrating properly which has absolutely nothing to do with it one has conclude that he is not the most reliable source of information.

The fast track system is a complete waste of time unless the top league gets priority over FTDR riders. The clue is in the name. It is supposed to be Fast Track DEVELOPMENT scheme. Where is the development coming from if the rider is off riding at the level he would be riding in anyway? Once again the PL side pull the strings. They don't want a fast track scheme of their own and they don't want their riders in an EL scheme. They don't want young Brits to progress to a higher level. All they want is the soft option of off the peg foreigners hammering an I creasing number of nails in the coffin.

Funny you should m,ent ion Poole. On the Monday after the infamous Kennet incident at Lakeside Poole were at Wolves and one Poole heatleader in particular suddenly couldn't get round the bends properly. Now, I am not suggesting he had suddenly switched back from an illegal silencer to a legal one without the engine going back to his tuner (there being a weekend in between ) but if he had then lack of power on the bends is exactly what you would expect to happen and what the riders had be complaining about wit the new silencers. From memory I think the rider concerned scored about 4 and was noticeably on trouble on the turns.

Muddlo goes from bad to worse. The one quote in the article is that Muddlo has been calling on the FIM to show "transparency". Well, they are going to show transparency. In accordance with the rules they are going to publish their written decision so anyone and everyone who is interested can see their reasoning and decision. That is standard practice in any proper tribunal . You can't get much more transparent than that. It's exactly what Muddlo has been calling for, but what does he do? He goes on Twitter asking what the hell is going on. The man is completely bonkers.

So it counts as rape when Muddlo penetrates social media ?

All track medical officers are given an aide memoirs (also downloadable from the SCB website) which includes guidance on how to deal with concussion. This includes standard guidance applicable sports in general, not just speedway. Clearly there are varying degrees of concussion ranging from trivial to very serious. If a rider suffers a head injury (or any other injury for that matter) the MO hast send an injured rider form to the ref and the meeting cannot continue until this is done. In the case of a head injury the form should include an assessment of the injury. The point to bear in mind is that the track doctor is not responsible for the riders medical care apart from emergency treatment and first aid. That responsibility falls to the riders GP or hospital. When a rider signs on for a meeting he certifies he is fit to ride and one presumes that he has been cleared by those treating him, although the MO does have power to make him undergo an examination if he clearly seems unfit. The trouble is some riders are clearly casual about health matters but they are adults and you can't be behind them all the time.

Muddlo really is as dim as Toch H lamp. It is common practice in any judicial hearing or tribunal where there is a panel of judges to give the decision in WRITING some time after the hearing. The reason his the tribunal review the evidence and set out their reasons for coming to their decision and if it is majority decision they include the views of the dissenting judges. the other thing is that this is clearly something of an unusual case, at least within speedway and possibly within sport generally so it may well be that the decision will be sitting precedent so the rationale behind the decision has to be explained clearly There is nothing unusual about this, yet Muddlo who purports to be a team manager under the auspices of the FIM, who has ostensibly been in charge of his national team in international competitions apparently doesn't know how these things work. The last couple of years Muddlo has shown himself to be a fool , and and arrogant one at that, considering the way blurts his opinions all over social media while his fellow TM's tend to keep their own counsel on these things and wait for announcements through the official channels As for Starman, it really seems SCB is spot on. Difficult to believe anyone is really that thick.

The FIM anti doping code state that it is the riders personal responsibility to ensure that no prohibited substance enters his body. Elsewhere they recommend that a rider should take alcohol before an event Whether you label it "drunk " or not is irrelevant. The point is he chose to allow alcohol into his body. That puts into sharp perspective his excuse that he didn't hydrate properly. He shouldn't have had the stuff in his body in the first place. Bottom line is Darcy is a bit of an idiot and if you read Muddlo's inane ramblings in Speedway Star over the last few weeks he his not much more informed than Darcy.

I read it on here as well but I have read all kinds of rubbish on here that is mere speculation with no factual basis. A few questions for those who insist there is a substantial compensation claim:- 1. What country does Darcy''s cause of action arise in, Latvia , Switzerland or somewhere else ? How exactly do the laws of whoever country it is make provision for this sort of claim ? 2 . Who exactly is Darcy going to sue? Is it the FIM , or the body that organised the event, or the race director , the referee or whoever conducted the alleged incorrect test ? 3. How does Darcy establish his loss of earnings? How for example does he prove that in a dangerous sport he wouldn't have been injured in his first race of the GP and missed the rest of the season anyway ? 4.How does he show that notwistanding the allegedly faulty breathalyser he was not over the limit anyway. There are a multitude of similar hurdles to be overcome and whilst I agree they could potentially be answered my point is that whatever potential claim Darcy's lawyers could allegedly make there are plenty of obstacles that could be thrown in the way by equally skilled lawyers opposing him. I obviously don't know all the details but nor does anybody else on here but I do know that any potential claim would not be the sort of plain sailing that Starman and a few others seem to imagine. Unless there are some relevant facts not in the public domain I very much doubt that there will be a serious legal claim,

Where is the basis for a claim for loss wages and compensation ? All we have heard about that is gossip .

As a matter of speculation, supposing he gets a ban beyond the start of the season, how would this affect his visa application? It would be difficullt for Poole to say they would give him a job because once the first set of CMA's are out then in theory they might not be able to fit him in .

It might be more beneficial if they hit him with a two year ban from Booze and young women

Sids and Gustix are different kettles of fish. SIDS heart is in the right place but he lets his emotions run away with him. With regard to Gustix it depends what you refer to as knowledge. He certainly has some good recollections of speedway in days gone by which are of interest to those such as myself that appreciate recollections of speedway history, by himself, Norbold , and a few others. Unfortunately he has absolutely no knowledge of how to debate, how to construct an argument, how to respond to banter, and perhaps most important of all how to keep more or less to the substance of the topic under discussion without drifting off into barely relevant , tangental tediously uninteresting drivel

I know how we missed it. He's had a ban and now has to have his first few posts read by. s mod, just as with a new member, hence the post only got slotted in after mod approval by which time the tread had moved on. Poor old Sid. It would be a pity to see him gone for good(unlike Shovlar) but on this sort of rough and tumble forum banter, you have to learn to take it as well as dish it out.

If that's their strongest argument it is unlikely to get very far. It is a sloppy term but in legal documents it is usually understood the way John Leslie has explained :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And/or In the unlikely event that Wards lawyers would run this argument as the main limb of their case they would probably have to show that there is some precedent for it being interpreted in a way favourable to that argument in the past. The other thing is that there is almost certainly something in the rules to say how they should be interpreted in the event of a dispute on meaning. I think it highly likely that the FIM rules on these procedures are very much in line with those of other administrative bodies like the FIA, FIFA and similar organisations and if their was any mileage in the point it would almost certainly have been tested by now

Muddlo said in Speedway Star that Darcy "knows he has done wrong and knows he should be punished" Either Darcy has admitted guilt or Muddlo, not for the first time has made himself look a complete idiot blurting out something that is not strictly true.

And of course, as we all know, getting off on a technicality is not the same as establishing ones innocence

I didn't know that. I suppose being "professional " and being a nice guy don't always go together, although many respected speedway historians regard Ronnie Moore as the most naturally talented rider ever plus being a complete professional, and according to Briggo and Ivan Mauger he was a nice bloke as well, and they should know. He is another one I would have loved to have seen in his prime. Here you are Starman. Best I can do for you. England -v-Australia 1933. I love the pictures of the crowd, all in their Sunday best, no anoraks, no baseball caps, immaculately manicured grass on the centre green. And what a commentator ! No shouting of screaming, no "whoa how did he stay on the bike Nige ", crowd of 55,000 and the racing doesn't seem to bad either Where did it all go wrong ? ( that's a rhetorical question guys, lets not get into all that again ) http://www.britishpathe.com/video/1933s-first-speedway-test

If there is one rider I wish I could travel back in time and see it is Jack Parker. Evrything I have read about him oozes professionalism... He contested the British Match Race Chamionship someting like 21 times and won, I think 18 or 19'of them, and that was in an era of some cracking riders. It must have been great going to speedway meetings in the late forties/early fifties to see a rider like Parker riding to a packed stadium. I've seen some old newsreels on YouTube and it looks great. As soon as I finish inventing my time machine , my top priority will be going back to see if. Jack Parket what's as good as the history books tell us. When we compare Parker to Dacy Ward there must be a lesson there somewhere.

Since the rule is only at its draft stage it might be a good idea to wait and see its final form, and how it is interpreted before pulling it apart.

Most people have a short fuse when they are young but usually learn to be a bit more measured as they get older. If someone's choice in life is not to learn by experience, and to react in a hotheaded way all the time they cannot expect people to keep cutting them slack time after time. As I said, we all have to follow the same forum rules. Most of us disagree quite strongly at times but we have to learn to get over it and get on with it.

You have started some good topics TWK and people try to wind you up but you don't go threatening people. We all have to follow the same set of rules and pay the same price if we don't.

Riders were much better at making mistakes in the ? 70's and 80's? riders like, like Lee ang Carter made. Some terrific mistakes and the crowds came flocking in ? riders today don't know what mistakes are.Ward ? don't make me laugh he don't know what mistakes are, mad wellie made mistakes than ward one night a cradlley then the next night he was line a choirboy?me I don't care who wins the match as long as there are plenty of mistakes? your right Starman , matt fords good for the sport nobody makes better mistakes than him appointing middlo was a terrific mistake and I'm 73 years old now. If I see you Orion I'll punch you up the throat? and I've seen Bob kilby and crashby ride when my uncle took me in 1847.