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Not the best news in the world, but all we can do now is wait and see what happens when then finally tell us the real story and not the load of old trollop, they have put on the Lions webpage. It just sounsds like a big fairy tale on DH's part to make folks belive he has stepped aside, for someone else to carry on all the good work that has gone on in the past.

I would think by now everything is done and dusted, it would not surprise me in the least if the hheavy machinery has not already made its way to BP ready to start ripping up the track and putting it in to a shape that should have been there from the very start. We will only be able to come in the school holidays if it is mid week as I need my grandson there to help me with my wheelchair etc. Hope that 2017 is going to a year to make the fans happy at long last and not coming to see them fall by the wayside time and again, be icing on the cake if they made the top 4 teams. We can live in hope. I am sure that Buster is not going to come here and have a team of old lags and no hopers, as we have had the last 3 seasons. We will soon be put out of our miseries and know who the 7 names are.

Happy New Year to all Lions fans and also to all other fans in general. Hope there are not to many bad heads this morning, one good thing of not drinking these days.

Mick. I would be a great honour to him if they changed the name of the Stadium in his name. As you say 20 years of his life spent getting Speedway back in the City for it to be taken over by one man with a mission, that nearlly brought it all falling again, at least it has been saved and we can hope that finally we get a team to be proud of and some kind of recognition for Ken,

I for one need the disabled parking space and I for one am actually disabled after trapping my spinal chord many years ago. I know there are quite a few people who have blue badges that don't need then, I even had my wrists slapped when I sent a letter to Derbyshire council asking why people who reached 65 thought it was a given right to be able to get a badge, I am now 65 and need it more that ever

Merry Christmas and a Happy 2017 season to all on here. Hope it brings a good years racing.

Good news at long last, but I do hope that we hear about the other two clubs soon, they have both been part and parcel of British Speedway for many years, we can ill aford to lose them. Hope the new year brings us that other good news.

It has now come to the stage where not only the top riders but most in some of the lower leagues think of themselves as being some sort of demi- god. You either pay what we ask for, with a van and spanner lad thrown in for good measure or we go to a club that will do as we wish. It is not a cheap sport any longer, they have to have the bikes race tuned by expert tuners at stupid cost all to be paid for, mostly by silly sods like us who pay to get in. If clubs what to offer big money and the extra perks, then they should be looking for some really big name sponsers to make up the short fall. You get the clubs announcing that they have got Simon Stubbings washer and bots supplies as the main sponser this year. He gives them a few spare nuts and bolts and a few quid. They need bigger and better sponsers than that to pay for all these litle extras in life. Soon we will be back to the days of the 60's with Fred spending the week in his shed getting his bike ready afor all the advertisingnd getting around £6 a meeting, he was happy though he loved the sport, not the money. Plus riders these days have so many sponsers of thier own, there is hardly a space due to the avertising on thier kelvars, helmets, gloves, boots and bikes. So they must be getting a feww quid of thier own on top of everthing else. Today they are just big posers, just take the GP's where they have to flash an arm advert to the camera's, how much extra do they get out of that. There is not many riders left that do it for the love of the sport. Once past the mid stages of the second level of the sport. So we may just end up with some shale in a field and a couple of quid to get in, with old Bill on his Weslake. Might at see see some good racing, instead of watching a long string of 4 riders covering half of the track or more. Seen some really good racing at MDL meeting at BP. Young lads that do it because they enjoy it.

It is not just a few things that are wrong, it is the whole show, who would have thought back in our heyday that some top league clubs would be facing the chop, clubs with less that a few hundred coming through the gates, the top riders turning thier back, speedway has now started to become big money for cetain riders, the clubs here can;t meet those needs and should never have done so in the first place because when they did pay out it nearly broke them. Why do we need them anyway, if we are true speedway fans as long as the racing is good, no mater who the riders are, then we should be happy to go and watch some good close racing, instead of some of the trash we have been having to put up with. It came to a head when any two bit overseas riders came here to earn a few bob with no care in the world how they rode, then the rot set set, the fans left and what a state we are in now. Will have to wait and see what next season brings, we may just end up with far better speedway.

Though this was a topic about Chris Holder. All it seems to be is a usual slagging off contest. Has anyone heard of the season of goodwill. Give it a rest and lets get back on the topic. By the way has anyone heard anything about Chris's plans for next season. Is he riding in the UK if so has any team put out the fealers for him, last I heard it was Leicester, Kings Lynne and BV. who seemed to be 3 clubs mentioned.

As Al say, Summers is going about as far as he can go. Not enthrawled by his performancess this season. Think he will make a mark in the new Champions league, but when it comes to racing against any of the higher ranked riders in the Premier league, I think he is lacking. They should be able to find a far better replacement out of what is left out there. You never know there may be some big surprises to come.

So a bit of good news at last I hope it is a rosy one and one not tied down with so many stipulations about what can or can not be done. I very much doubt that Buster would let anyone pull the wool over his eyes. Things may just be looking up for the Lions at long last after sufferin g in the doldrums for quite a few years now. The club was the laughing stock of a lot of other teams fans, The whole thing just ended up as a big joke, you just knew that the bottom spot was sitting waiting for the Lions. They may just get a half decent team to be proud of next season. We can live in hope, because when all is said and done this is the weakest ex Elite League that has ever been fielded. With the Premier and Championship league having very little to seperate them. Saying that though I think it will give some interesting racing. What I do hope is that before the season starts that they can get around to changing the track, if it was me I would get a bulldozer and start again from scratch.

I presume an awful load of matters come into play. 1. Does the lease holder play ball with the BPSA. If not that needs addressing very quickly to sort things out. 2. Is the land the stadium sits on belonging to the owner, or as in the case of BP the Local Council, what is the working partnership between both parties. I am sure if they have problems, then the lease on the land could be cancelled, then taken over by other parties. Because when all said and done, all the owner has are a few buildings a fence and a load of shale. 3. Lots of clubs still race inside greyhound tracks, so they are there only until they upset someone. as with Birmingham the other year, no rent no speedway club. Things need to be sorted out quickly if the sport hopes to carry on for many more years, soon there will be no one out there who wants to take the risk of becoming a promoter, after all the way the sport is now it is a very big gamble. Hope that those in power, can do something to get the crowds back again to decent levels, instead of seeing about 100 fans turning out to watch the top flight clubs, even at reduced rates when Sky are there. It looks terrible on the telly and I am sure it will not give people the heart to turn up to a track with hardly anyone there. How they do it have not got a clue, it certainly needs more in the way of advertising, plus some big name sponsers. It would be great to see crowds like the ones in the 1950 to 70's but I think those days are lost to the history books.

I was mearly asking a question, to try and find out what actually went wrong with the club this year. When we where told at the end of the previous year that the club was in very stable condition finance wise. So what went wrong in those few short months. We will never find out, it is a question that is never going to be answered. Not a slight at DH. but somehow things went badly wrong in less than 6 months, it should be a matter of great importance that the B.P.S.A/SCB make it that all clubs must pay riders after every meeting, If they fail to do this, then questions should be asked before it gets to the stage it has done this year with at least 4 clubs in difficulties, if they are found to be near to having to lock the gates, then the powers that be should take the steps to get a new promotor to take over the club, before the are actually faced with a huge amount of debts. Things need to change if the sport needs to carry on. Because a time will come when the debts can't be cleared up and the fact that yet another club would be added to the long list of defunk clubs, we have seen to many go that way in the past, we can't afford to see any more go to the wall, or the sport will no longer be viable, other than in an amatuer way.

I can imagine that the state that Leicester where left in is nothing but one huge bag of worms, with money going between one of DH's intrests to another. I should think that the company he still has interests in that is as the owner of the stadium is in a very good state financially, more than can be said about the club, why was he ever allowed to transfer money, when the riders where not being paid beats me. But it looks like he only bothered with his own interests. Doubt we will ever find out what really happened.

It is well time things where sorted out now, can't for one moment see why all those concerned are dragging thier heels and letting he fans know what is what. Unless DH is givving them all a hard time. Would not be at all suprised at that. Bet he is walking around with the stadium keys on a string around his neck. For what he has done to the club he wants a bit more than a bunch of keys there.

If Buster is running the club as stated, then I should imagine he is more than able to put DH in his place.

It just fails to amaze me that DH would never listen to anything that people said, the only thing I can remeber him actually doing after being asked by not just me alone but the supports club too was to spend a few pounds and a days work, laying slabs, from just passed the shop to the disabled viewing area, to make things a lot easier for folks in wheelchairs to get to the Loo's I always ended up with the same reply, that it would be done soon. It took from when the stadium opened until 2 seasons ago to do it. Maybe not something he will go down in the history books for but it made a few people lives a lot easier, than rattling your teeth crossing that roadstone. I now wait with baited breath to see an actual statement on the Lions and SCB's websites. I f they manage to get the track work done then all the better, what is of greater importance is getting the Lions to the tapes next year. That work will get done of that I am sure. Look forward to next season. Hope for goodness sake though, that they get a team that can compete, if they don't reach the playoff it will not be the end of the world, but it would be icing on the cake to see them at least finish up somewhere at the top of the tree, instead of being the strongest club, that sits at the botton, like Charles Atlas and holds all the other teams up.

If what is being said is the truth, then good luck to all involved, get the track sorted, get the team manager in place and get the rest of the team signed up. Just hope the future at BP is a lot rosier than it has been last last 3 seasons.

It is a great shame if it is true that Woz is not riding over here next year, he had just started to get things together with riding British tracks, is there a reason for him not riding other than the Poless again telling him that he can't ride over here again. I think they are far to dominating when it comes to telling riders what they can and can not do.

I know it would never happen but I would love to see one of the Laguta brothers as our NO1 preferably Artur, or better still to have Emil as No1 plus one of the Lagutas. Trouble is how much would you have to pay to get them to ride for you, far to much for most British Teams. I do hope that they manage to keep the services of the young Pole he has come on really well, since he came to ride for the Lions. Not knowing who has already made plans for other clubs, it is really a matter of who is left to take the pick of. From what I can see with the other teams, some are going for quite a few big names from Nritish speedway, while others are nothing more than a team of riders from the PL. All in all I think this is going to be one very strange year, hope it gives some good meetings, but from what I can see so far there will be 2 or 3 clubs that will dominate the league. Just hope that they have got the money coming in to pay all the riders wages, this is a big factor and one that needs addressing, this year has seen quite a few clubs having difficult times, but to not pay riders for weeks on end is not something that should be taken lightly. It will soon get to a time where riders will say enough is enough and they will call it a day riding here, then all that will be left is the amatuers, the ride for the love of the sport, the only problem with this is how many fans would turn up to watch them. As for chosing a team until a list of riders that are free agents and are looking for a pplace to ride than it is a hard call. Just hope the Lions don't end up with a team of dross, it is time for things to change and bring some winning ways. Just a point of ote, if DH is still the owner of the stadium next year, he could virtually stop any new romoter from doing any track alterations, or do any work at the stadium, I for one would love to see those terrible containers by the pit area replaced by a proper building, it does tend to spoil the look of things. I would make a nice viwing area and changing rooms and showers for the riders, but I think things will have to waita ns dee what pans out over the next few months. Any choices for a new promoter, I really think we could do no worse with someone like Sam Emerlenko at the riiegns.

This is or was not a gate house to check, what was being offloaded.

Just imagine a worst case senario. The council doe's not want DH to carry on as the tennant of the land. The council lawyers send the company a leeter marked urgent for you attention. We have asked you on several occasions to remove the rubble and rubbish that you had unofficially placed on and around the land ajacent to the stadium, so far nothing has been done to remove any of the said waste. We prsume you recieved payment from whoever deposited the waste on our land, without consent from yourself. We have now started having worries that this waste could actually contain toxic or hazordous wate amounst it, if it was any ordinarry type of waste, then why was it not sent to a site where they could have legally deposted it, so we ourselves have arranged for a team of experts to come up to the site to check oyt the waste in question, it will then be removed from the site by us and charged to you along with the costs of the survey, plus we also need to get a team of landscapping contractors to put the site to right again, as this is now a public park not a waste site, as it used to be. Our team have been getting quotes in for this work and it now looks like it will be ceryclose to the £1million mark to carry out all the work in hand, we will let you know shortly and also when this work will start. Also as the land has been used for other purposes than those in the tender, we will be making a marked increase in the rent paid by your company for the use of our land. It has also been noted that thier is a danger to the public on the footpath from cars and vans driving over a public footpath I would imagine that niether ours or your insurannce would cover for any accident on said footpath, so we are sending in a team of engineers to constuct a footbrige over the road for the public to use, this will be charge to you the lease holder as it will prove to be a very good means of making sure the publc are kept safe. We are also planning to hold brass band concert next summer in the park and the lanscaping will help to make the area look more appealing, we will therefore be tarmacing the area behind, what is now the area you use for disabled parking, this can be used by the speedway fans that come on a race night, the cost of some of the work will be placed in the rent of the land, but we stipulate that the carpark is used free of charge. Whilst all this work is being carried out, no one will be allowed to enter the site, it will be fenced off and will have a 24 hour security in force. Just shows what can be done if some people take a very strong dislike to someone, They can make your life shear hell. Any quesses how he would get out of this little story. That is all it is but belive me it could happen to the best of us. Thier is no thruth or even a rumour that anything like this has happened or is even going to happen. As I said this is a total piece of fiction, just a little bit of silly nonsense, but just something that could just happen in our stupid society today.

Very much the case.That is unless whoever is interested in taking over have already made it known to riders that they wish to use thier services for the coming season. There is more going on here than meets the eye me thinks.

Just seen this posted on the SCb website on the twitter feeds at the side. Quote::. Talks continuing regarding Leicester. Will update when the situation is finalised. I would think that DH is one of the most unloved men not only by the B.P.S.A/S.C.B. But by Leicester City Council, he has failed to uphold most of the issues put forward by the council, on the use of the land at BP. He also managed to get the backs up of every EL promoter this season. I would think that the council would be if not already refusing him the lease on the land, if that happens then where does that leave things, he owns a stadium, that is on land that belongs to another party, this being the case if the refuse his lease on the said land, they would be well ts to clear the site of any buildings. So I should well imagine that whoever is taking over the running of the club, they would also be in a position to work with the council to get the lease on the land too. If this happened where would DH stand. As he has illeagle building on the council land. He isw no longer a promoter and banned by the B.P.S.A/S.C.B from going into anywhere other than public places at any speedway venue in the country, so really he owns very little indeed.