Ben91

What would you say the grade is Waco? There are a lot of riders who mature later in their careers of course, look at Charles Wright and Paul Starke, both integral parts of the Somerset team that looks set to beat all before them in the Premier League this season. They both spent a long time in the NL, with a few spells in PL sides, not making huge waves before it clicked for them. Danno Verge looked like he'd never amount to anything while at Scunthorpe and last season at Kent, this year he's scoring solidly for the Kings.

Raiders were above Coventry in the pecking order on averages, only missed out because Coventry are the hosts, would make sense to include them now.

A rider riding for his team in the higher league is no joke, it's exactly how it should be. Kent would be foolish to not book a guest for Ayres, they've pretty much got pick of the bunch.

I'm sure this was originally supposed to be the league meeting so Rye would have been at Berwick tonight anyway.

Building site aside that's no different to the Silver era.

This Somerset side looked pretty poor on paper at the start of the year. A move has done Tungate good by the looks of things. Allen and BWD were definitely gambles in my eyes, again they've paid off so far. Fair play to the Rebels, they're gonna take some stopping.

It may host an extra GP, such as the European GP in some seasons but the organisers of the series would want shooting if they decided to swap Cardiff for Belle Vue.

It's about striking a balance, but if you don't cater to the future audience then there won't be an audience in the future. If you don't like a bit of noise then why would you choose to go to a live Motorsport event? But let's just carry on playing the Nolan Sisters and Hi-Ho Silver Lining at a barely audible level in between heats, that'll get new fans in and keep them hooked.

Yeah I hate it when announcers build atmosphere at meetings and when music is played between heats instead of deathly silence. Let's not try entertain the next generation of supporters, let's carry on as it was in the seventies and eighties because that's still working so well...

Pretty sure they were there together, plus Compton has raced for Buxton in the past too.

Because since he had an average over four he got worse. He may not have the PL NEG next to his name on the greensheets or whatever it is supposed to say but the rules state that a rider who has previously held a PL average of over four is not eligible as a NL only guest in the PL and Davey has held an average of over four.

Not sure what all the confusion is about, Davey has previously held an average of over four points in the Premier League, that makes him ineligible to guest as a NL guest in the PL. Scunny have every right to be protesting as far as I can see.

An insult? Behave. Ben is coming on very well now, I agree but like most riders when he came into the sport he fell off the bike of his own accord on plenty of occasions. Don't take this as a dig at your grandson, just pointing out that everyone has to start somewhere. Locke could learn a lot from Ben I'm sure, but would he want to ask knowing that Ben's grandad has such a low opinion of him?

No it isn't, they both had to start somewhere and Morley fell off on his own plenty of times during his first season. Now he's one of the best in the NL and having his best PL season to date. How would Ben have felt if one of his more experienced team mates' relatives had come on here complaining about him every time he rode during his first few months in the sport?

Branford and Morley are both young still and not good enough for full time PL racing yet, so should they just quit? Of course not. But this league is for development, unfortunately the Raiders haven't had the best of luck with their three pointers unlike last season, it isn't helping anyone continually stating how bad they are though in this instance, it's a development league. There have clearly been efforts to find better options for the lower end too, hence Leek being signed. Look at Verge last season, he was awful for Kent and he's now doing pretty well. What's to say Locke and Bowdery won't do the same next year? The gulf in class between the top two and the bottom two in the Raiders' side is huge, that doesn't help matters either, when you have Morley and Branford winning races with ease and then see Locke learning his trade in the next heat it's going to be obvious he's still a way behind them. I remember Ben Morley's first season, he seemed to spend more time under the third bend kick boards than on the track, he's doing pretty well for himself now. It just takes time.

How much do you get paid to mention Geoff Pymar at every possible opportunity out of interest?

Do those claws need a trim Waco?

There'll have been a lot of non-finishers in his races.

There was an abundance of riders that fitted the bill and weren't as much of a gamble as Karger when Klindt left though. Branford for Karger is the least we can do right now, he'd average almost double what Karger is too without a doubt, if not more.

Embarrassing that the geezer has been signed really, not exact a British prosoect is he?

Bit of a joke that Davey's allowed in the NL really.

Surely though as the Cradley team was legal there's no protest to be made and the abandonment is just sour grapes on the part of Mildenhall? Expect the BSPA to come down on them like a ton of bricks and unfortunately it sounds like it'd be deserved too.

Trouble is, if people carry on paying weekly for a poor product then promotors will think nothing is wrong with the product. Good faith only stretches so far.

Tai Wofinden was never a great gater when he was at Rye. Plenty of time for Lambert to improve his starts, wouldn't be surprised to see him in the GPs in the next few years.

I'd happily take Bowtell back but he wouldn't fit now.