Thischarmingman

Another attempt on Saturday afternoon at Zeilona Gora? http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/2009/10/...gorze-w-sobote/

A one race ban rather than one meeting? Not a bad idea at all, though there are suggestions that Bydgoszcz are having the first GP so Tomasz would probably still have a good chance of the semis if he had to do 4 rides. He did sound a little contrite after the meeting to be fair to him.

So, the one guy who got 14 points out of a possible 15 in a quality field was embarrassing, but the other guy who got 14 out of 15 was superb. As far as I can remember it has never been Zorro's home track, and certainly hasn't been Holder's so no advantage to either. I'm confused...

Considering the amount of interviews she carried out over 3 and a bit hours, there is surely a limit of on the amount of different questions she can ask? The odd slip up is bound to happen on live TV, but I thought her and Chis Louis were very good last night. She's made a decent job of the interviewing since she started. It's little wonder Speedway fans have a bit of a reputation as slightly odd anoraks if some of the posts on this thread are anything to go by.

Agree with you, there were a group of us there, scattered about in different parts of the stadium and we all thought when we got outside after that the racing was pretty decent after the first half dozen or so races, much better than last year. Must get a different perspective when you are there or maybe it's the fabulous weather and the 6 zloty beer that puts you in a good mood.

'The Know' seems to post the most inane rubbish ever, having just had a flick through his recent posts. Some charming racist/xenophobic comments over the last couple of weeks (with the occasional smiley inserted - means you're only joking right?) Nothing to say, but posts all the time anyway, typical attention seeker with nothing better to do with his time. He's right that the GP series is far better than a once a year lottery though.

'A very big deal' to win a WC qualifier 4 times? Unless there was extra cash for doing so, I'd be hard pushed to believe they cared that much. You can believe it though, sure you won't change your mind. Kind of going nowhere this, but will finish up by pointing out that the list of rostrum placings from the Continental route that you have posted really defeats your own argument. I've checked the list of rostrum placings over that 20 year period just now and I think you have listed every single rostrum place from the Continental route between 1964 and 1983. That makes it 10 rostrum placings out of 60 over a 20 year period. And after 1983 not a single rostrum placing until it ended. Not that many really, and doesn't add great weight to the argument that it was so difficult (in relation to the Inter Continental route). As Henry W has pointed out, Gary Havelock won his in Poland on a track that was never his home track, whereas Muller won his in what was effectively his own back yard. If you think Muller would ever been world champion had they not held a final in Germany then you only need to look at his best of 7th in 6 other appearances to get the answer to that - no chance. Anyway, Egon Muller very good speedway rider, agreed.

I'm at work just now so only have a brief chance to reply, but your choice of achievements is interesting. From my recollections of the 'old days', the Continental route was always a far easier route to the World Final than the IntetrContinental. I've no doubt Muller had far greater resources at his disposal in those days than just about any other rider, especially of course the Poles etc. at that time. While I'm not particularly belittling what he achieved (and that is a good number of World Finals qualified for), I would doubt he would have got anywhere near that had it been a more level qualifying system. Luck of the draw though, those were the times and he didn't have to beat the Brits, Swedes, Danes or Americans. Not a great deal of strong nations left are there? Continental champion x 4 - not really a big deal is it?. Only have to read the autboigraphies of the likes of Simmons or Morton to realise that Continental/InterContintal/Overseas were all about getting through, nobody was bothered about winning. National champion - Only won it 5 times?! No idea about the strength in depth of German speedway back then, but it would be a stretch to think there was all that much competition. Longtrack - I thought we were comparing Speedway achievements, not other disciplines such as long track.

I'm glad people have different opinions, would be boring otherwise, but that comment is absolutely staggering.

That, I cannot help you with.

Article, with line-ups here; http://www.speedwayworld.tv/en/news/a8121?...90f74544746d190

Hoping that any US/California based members would be able to assist with information about the US Nationals. We're over on holiday and wanting to attend, however, can't find any details about tickets. I'm guessing that this is one meeting you need to buy in advance. The Costa Mesa website has a link with Ticketmaster, however, can't see any details of the meeting on the TM website. Have tried e-mailing the contact address given on the Costa Mesa website, but sadly not got a reply. Our only other visit to Costa Mesa was for a regular meeting 12 years ago and I remember the crowd being pretty big that night (although it was foxy night and free entry for the ladies ), so we're thinking that advance tickets for this are essential. Thanks in advance for any information.