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7 hours ago, arnieg said:

Piraterna have the begging bowl out, threatening to withdraw from Elitserien if they don't raise £120k by the end of the month.

Their main symptoms has been low attendance which in turn is because of ongoing track problems the past couple of seasons. Track also haven't been curated or prepared properly for a few seasons. Before meetings track preparations have begun too late/too close to the start of the meeting. Track has therefore not been good and quite dusty (according to meeting reports).

This season Piraterna's first home meeting (against Smederna) was aborted because track was unsafe (reports of large sheets of the track coming loose. Piraterna's second home meeting was aborted halfway through. So lots of spectators have stayed at home. I had quick look for attendance for piraterna the latest three seasons and the high note for attendance was about 2400 and the lowest about 900, not really economical sustainable attendance.

However after the problems after their second home meeting they brought in a grader and another vehicle to begins work the the track, but perhaps too late?

What the real cause is I don't know. Lack of volunteers with proper interest/knowledge or unable to commit to the amount time needed? Lack of knowledge/pondus in the board? I don't know.. Perhaps a bit of all of those?


IMO Daniel Davidsson (team manager) has done a very good job building a team with small budget
and unlike previous times with clubs have money difficulties Piraterna have in my opinion not overextended/ signed too many fancy names for too much money. On the contrary Daniel Davidsson have done a goodjob getting a pretty good team together with small means.  

 

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LIneups for monday;

Piraterna  - Smederna

Piraterna

1. Przemyslaw Pawlicki 
2     Oskar Fajfer 
3     Andreas Lyager 
4     Oskar Paluch
5     Vaclav Milik
6     Mathias Thörnblom 
7     Erik Persson

𝐄𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐥𝐬𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐚 𝐒𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚
1. Mathias Pollestad
2. Joel Andersson
3. Kim Nilsson
4. Gleb Chugunov
5. Maksym Drabik
6. Philip Hellström Bängs
7. Jakub Jamrog
 
Lejonen - Vargarna
Lejonen 
x - not submitted yet (deadline was 4 minutes ago).
 
Vargarna
1 Jakub Miskowiak       Ja 1,795 1,600 -
2 Victor Palovaara     19940131   1,056 1,235 Tävlingslicens
3 Jaimon Lidsey Ja     Ja 1,758 1,190 -
4 Kevin Pedersen *       Ja 1,250   -
5 Filip Hjelmland     19980910   0,949 1,500 Tävlingslicens
6 Christoffer Selvin *     19980723   0,500   Tävlingslicens
7 Marcin Nowak       Ja 1,250 1,125 -
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Tuesday’s matches line-ups

Rospiggarna v Vastervik - live on Premier Sport 1

Rospiggarna

1 Douglas

2 Tarasenko

3 Laguta

4 Nagel

5 Huckenbeck

6 L Lindgren

7 Jansson

Vastervik

1 Lambert

2 Brennan

3 F Lindgren

4 Smektala

5 M Hansen

6 Karlsson

7 Thorssell

 

Smederna v Lejonen

Smederna

1 Madsen

2 Andersson

3 Nilsson

4 Chugunov

5 Drabik

6 Hellstrom-Bangs

7 Jamrog

Lejonen

1 Hampel

2 Berntzon

3 Chmiel

4 Woryna

5 Cierniak

6 Wiltander

7 S Van Dyck

 

Dackarna v Piraterna

Dackarna

1 Jakobsen

2 Lahti

3 Parnitskyi

4 Przedpelski

5 Lebedevs

6 THJ

7 R Jensen

Piraterna

1 Prem Pawlicki

2 Sorensen

3 Lyager

4 Paluch

5 Milik

6 Thornblom

7 Selvin

 

Indianerna v Vargarna

Indianerna

1 Wozniak

2 Kowalski

3 Dudek

4 R Karlsson

5 Becker- R/R not Dudek( i think)

6 J Grahn

7 Buczkowski

Vargarna

1 Miskowiak

2 Palovaara

3 Polis

4 NKi

5 Hjelmland

6 M Nowak

7 Lidsey

 

 

 

 

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On 6/14/2025 at 9:05 PM, Ghostwalker said:

LIneups for monday;

Piraterna  - Smederna

Piraterna

1. Przemyslaw Pawlicki 
2     Oskar Fajfer 
3     Andreas Lyager 
4     Oskar Paluch
5     Vaclav Milik
6     Mathias Thörnblom 
7     Erik Persson

𝐄𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐥𝐬𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐚 𝐒𝐦𝐞𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚
1. Mathias Pollestad
2. Joel Andersson
3. Kim Nilsson
4. Gleb Chugunov
5. Maksym Drabik
6. Philip Hellström Bängs
7. Jakub Jamrog
 
Lejonen - Vargarna
Lejonen 
x - not submitted yet (deadline was 4 minutes ago).
 
Vargarna
1 Jakub Miskowiak       Ja 1,795 1,600 -
2 Victor Palovaara     19940131   1,056 1,235 Tävlingslicens
3 Jaimon Lidsey Ja     Ja 1,758 1,190 -
4 Kevin Pedersen *       Ja 1,250   -
5 Filip Hjelmland     19980910   0,949 1,500 Tävlingslicens
6 Christoffer Selvin *     19980723   0,500   Tävlingslicens
7 Marcin Nowak       Ja 1,250 1,125 -

Fajfer R/R.

Anyone but Pawlicki and Lyager I believe.

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11 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Tuesday’s matches line-ups

Rospiggarna v Vastervik - live on Premier Sport 1

Rospiggarna

1 Douglas

2 Tarasenko

3 Laguta

4 Nagel

5 Huckenbeck

6 L Lindgren

7 Jansson

Vastervik

1 Lambert

2 Brennan

3 F Lindgren

4 Smektala

5 M Hansen

6 Karlsson

7 Thorssell

 

Smederna v Lejonen

Smederna

1 Madsen

2 Andersson

3 Nilsson

4 Chugunov

5 Drabik

6 Hellstrom-Bangs

7 Jamrog

Lejonen

1 Hampel

2 Berntzon

3 Chmiel

4 Woryna

5 Cierniak

6 Wiltander

7 S Van Dyck

 

Dackarna v Piraterna

Dackarna

1 Jakobsen

2 Lahti

3 Parnitskyi

4 Przedpelski

5 Lebedevs

6 THJ

7 R Jensen

Piraterna

1 Prem Pawlicki

2 Sorensen

3 Lyager

4 Paluch

5 Milik

6 Thornblom

7 Selvin

 

Indianerna v Vargarna

Indianerna

1 Wozniak

2 Kowalski

3 Dudek

4 R Karlsson

5 Becker- R/R not Dudek( i think)

6 J Grahn

7 Buczkowski

Vargarna

1 Miskowiak

2 Palovaara

3 Polis

4 NKi

5 Hjelmland

6 M Nowak

7 Lidsey

Kowalski is also injured and won't be there. Don't think even Indianerna know how to replace him at this moment.

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10 hours ago, krompa said:

Fajfer R/R.

Anyone but Pawlicki and Lyager I believe.

Not Milik either. 

Faijfer has. 1.500. Pawlicki, Lyager and Milik have "löpande snitt" that are higher then Faijfers. 

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For drivers who have not achieved 6 heats during the current season, the driver's starting average applies.

I think Ghost is right. Milik rode 8 heats already. 1.889 is his average.

But what confuses me a bit is official lineup on svemo with *

* The driver have not been officially cut

This suggest that he is on initial ave. Really, really confusing comparing with official rules.

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Next Tuesday (24 June) is the individual Swedish championship. This year it's in Norrkoping as part of Swedish championship week (SM-veckan). Therefore it will be live on SVT play and available world wide.

No dkrect link available but it is listed on the link below.

https://www.svtplay.se/lista/upcoming-sport/kommande

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Next Tuesday (24 June) is the individual Swedish championship. This year it's in Norrkoping as part of Swedish championship week (SM-veckan). Therefore it will be live on SVT play and available world wide.

No dkrect link available but it is listed on the link below.

https://www.svtplay.se/lista/upcoming-sport/kommande

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Francis Gusts replaces Luke Becker at Indianerna as long as Becker is out due to injury.

Indianerna's team tomorrow 

   1. Szymon Wozniak

   2. Bartosz Banbor

   3. Patryk Dudek

   4. Rasmus Karlsson

   5. Francis Gusts

   6. Jonatan Grahn

   7. Krzyszto f Buczkowski

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11 hours ago, Ghostwalker said:

6 heat is required for a team to able to use R/R for that rider.

12 heats required for official average.

So milik can take a ride.

Milik didn't get extra ride. What a mess these rules are. Terrible.

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10 hours ago, krompa said:

Milik didn't get extra ride. What a mess these rules are. Terrible.

I re-read the rules again and I think (I have e-mailed Mikael Karlsson at Svemo and asked for clarification)
it's like this but RR-rules has changed several times the past seasons.

1.  Eligible riders to be replaced are top 4 riders in the lineup based on floating average.
2. For riders that have done less then 6 heats the season entry average is used to determine
eligibility. 
3. For riders that have done 6 heats or more the floating average is used to determine
eligibility. 
4. Official average (12 heats required) has no bearing on the R/R-rule.

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Also a note from Piraterna - Smederna yesterday.
Despite free entrance, only 1676 people showed up. Track was quite dry initially but improved after they had watered it a bit more. Piraternas had yesterday (before the meeting) only manage to secure about 200 000 SEK out of the necessary 1 300 000 SEK required by end of June so things still does look good for PIraterna's.

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16 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said:

I re-read the rules again and I think (I have e-mailed Mikael Karlsson at Svemo and asked for clarification)
it's like this but RR-rules has changed several times the past seasons.

1.  Eligible riders to be replaced are top 4 riders in the lineup based on floating average.
2. For riders that have done less then 6 heats the season entry average is used to determine
eligibility. 
3. For riders that have done 6 heats or more the floating average is used to determine
eligibility. 
4. Official average (12 heats required) has no bearing on the R/R-rule.

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Also a note from Piraterna - Smederna yesterday.
Despite free entrance, only 1676 people showed up. Track was quite dry initially but improved after they had watered it a bit more. Piraternas had yesterday (before the meeting) only manage to secure about 200 000 SEK out of the necessary 1 300 000 SEK required by end of June so things still does look good for PIraterna's.

Thanks for endeavouring to clarify the RR regs. I think you have already said it’s back to 1 above and any below in 2025 ?

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20 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Thanks for endeavouring to clarify the RR regs. I think you have already said it’s back to 1 above and any below in 2025 ?

I got a reply and my assumption was wrong. lol. No it's equal and below.

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