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well its a weakening of 2nd tier and the need for some riders therin to have other incomes both of which are too much for some to swallow numbers 1 and 2 at 2nd tier level could be back ups for top tier but thats it for me - max of say 6 appearances for me I'd stomach it to achieve credibility

i suppose rather than looking for grand theories to pin point the beginning of the decline a simple question to those who have stopped attending but still come on here might give some clues. I am one such non attender these days - my answer would be expense of admission as the main reason. Now I'm out of the habit and wonder if I'll ever regain it.

either way i don't care - i just want credibility for the sport

no i wouldnt want 6 man teams tbh not to sound cruel but thats their problem - get a job maybe

i personally believe there are sufficient in the NL who are not wobblers and could be used. It does mean weakening the 2nd tier and severely restricting doubling but i believe thats the way forward. I understand 2nd tier fans enjoy Cook, King, etc but they have to pick one league in this country for me for the sake of credibility i also believe 6 man teams could work

i've argued this for years but it needs a cut in machine expenses and foreign travel as well as (unfortunately) paying riders less - the first may happen but the other two....

quite a few of us are of the opinion that the sport doesn't televise that well, although sky have done better than most. Plus its getting too embarrassing with ad hoc teams - when they show pl fixtures next year there'll be any amount of duplicate riders - hang on doesn't he ride for Belle Vue? Televising has done nothing for attendances maybe its best sky pull out

while this does seem rather obvious why does he not just say 'you're evicted' rather than busting the seats, which by the way not all venues have and wouldnt really be a barrier to the stadiums use = well not for speedway anyway, whise fans will put up with much discomfort

from the northernmost track Edinburgh to Plymouth in the south Belle Vue is actually slightly to the south of the middle

so - what then - pull the plug or keep talking???

not the worst idea tbh

hahaha --- oh wait, you're serious

So agreement couldn't be reached by Friday and your answer would be what? Pull the plug? Or continue to try and find a reolution? And he's the muppet?

attention seeker

i've never agreed with your view to remove all tactical rides TWK but that is a good point - home wins are generally good for business however you're wasting your breath about play offs - far too lucrative to give up now - I'd prefer league champions and play offs winners given another title

well ive never heard the bloke speak before and i thought what he said was fine. The sport is organising itself as best it can and when it demonstrates consistency as i believe it will a big sponsor will follow. You aren't going to get revolution but seems to me to be moving in the right direction generally. Lets be frank he's had some crap to deal with

cheers for the updates boys - just shows that things are on the up - good luck to Mr K i hope he gets the crowds back

anything of note? theres nothing on the forum or fb page

where is the promised news today?

just giving my opinion, had a crazy notion thats what the group was for

because long term a mechanical solution to costs was needed - if not junior leagues and air fences wont be needed

someone would always cheat - nice idea but points limits are the only way - unfortunately that 'weakens' teams - i don't see that as a problem personally but some do

yes but if RL, speedway and stock cars used it thats less than 60 k a year - bit more reasonable especially if it was used for World cup, GP challenge or dare i say GP

I'm not sure about what's twisted about worrying about the spread of Islam in a Christian country. Its this attitude which has led to the popularity of rather extreme political parties and movements - all because the main parties have not addressed concerns people reasonably hold and, if i may say so, the hysterical reaction to any view contrary to their own. Anyway - Odsal's great and wouldn't be here without it - my Ma and Pa met there!

i think the Spanish would go crazy for speedway if it was presented to them properly