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I understand that should be the case, it is at Swindon.

Try learning to read, I employed the people who were able to do what they did, I did not claim that I am an expert in computer fraud.

I have employed people who could hack into computer systems so I know what they are capable of doing, I used them to set up methods to reduce airline ticket fraud, so I think I know about computer fraud methods. The system developed was used by many airlines. By paying paypal cash or using ukcash you are eliminating any computer link. The second weakest is giving debit card details over the phone, the third is putting your details on your computer system. If you put your debit card details into your computer, that is probably more easily hackable than the system bet365 has. If you do give bank or card details to bet365 of course they put it on their computer to collect it. By paying cash you eliminate any fraud possibility.

Tell that to the computer hackers, they are having the laugh.

That is what the banks said about the security of cash machines. Just ring up bet365, they will accept your debit card details over the phone.

For anyone like me who will not use Bank or Card details via the internet they can set up an account via phone and then accept just the bets via computer thingy, or you can bet by phone. For a few quid this looks good and I will have the odd bet. Thanks for the + - betting explanation R and R as the last time I had a bet it was on which chariot or gladiator would win.

Have put a couple of questions about this bet365 on the bet 365 thread if someone could look at it and answer on that thread, thanks

Note to Starman, do not forget to give it a special polish so it looks good at Swindon throughout 2014.

Thanks Graham.

I have not put a bet on for years and never via a computer. Could someone please explain the proceedure for getting this Bet365, I have looked at their website but cannot easily see how to place money, Is this just an internet site or do they have shops as I never pay for anything via a computer. Also please explain either on here or by pm what some of the bets mean, ie +8 or -10, in my day it was win, draw or in the top three. Sorry if this is on the wrong thread Phil, but it is a question that relates to bet365.

I accept what you say but after last years scores I was not expecting much from him on away tracks, apart from Eastbourne, so 4 is ok, would have preferred more obviously. It is at Swindon he should do better, but we will see. After a few meetings Swindon may need to look at the line up of the second strings.

I bet Rosco was "happy" when he saw who the ref was.

He came up against a better PK, no idea steve, it is no doubt that the Swindon heatleaders were better than Lakesides but did expect him to do better than he did, especially after his performance the other night.

Poole, but only cos they nicked it.

What a comeback by the Robins. 11 points down after heat 8 and having used one double point ride. What is interesting is the diff scores of the 3 groups Heat Leaders L 17 SW 30 2nd strings L 18 SW 9 Reserves L 12 Sw 5 Killer stated Lakeside is not a track he likes but he came good against the other heat leaders. Troy and Nick did well. Our reserves were thrashed by the Lakeside reserves, but we were without Steve. Simon and Nicolai did ok. Swindon did ok on a small away track, getting one point is a bonus and if the reserves can improve, that will be good. Lakeside Pk 2,RL 9,DW 9,MB 9,LB 6,BM 6,AE 6 Swindon PK 13,NK 5,TB 11,SG 4,NM 6,DR 3,MW 2 Look at updates for full details.

Is that the noise his bike makes when he leaves the start

I am glad this meeting is not at Swindon as the wind from the NE is bl**dy freezing. We have done well at Lakeside, but being the first meeting for Swindon and the performance of PK the other night this will be a tough one.

I suppose this change means that the bspa have accepted and acted on the first problem with this new system, even though it was mentioned by posters on here, but it has two sides to it. More teams will have 7 riders rather than rider rr but which heat leaders with a false average will replace a second string and race against reserves.

Pairs is being repeated numerous times over weekend, have decided to follow Swindon and other meetings on updates tonight and then watch pairs tomorrow.

It differs, some riders book flights well ahead where the price and guarantee of a seat is needed. and often the ticket is not transferable, also purchasing a ticket close to the flight can be a lot more expensive. Try getting a refund out of Easyjet or Ryan Air, they will probably charge Killer for cancelling his flight, if he uses them. With riders using the airline each week they may have an arrangement to be able to chop and change flights at no cost. The bigger problem could be not being able to get a seat on a rescheduled flight.

Does that mean they do not trust the people at Coventry to get the track right in two weeks !

I am glad for the early call off, have travelled to away meetings only to arrive and meeting off. I am sure the fans of Swindon who come from afar prefer that as do the ones from the away team. Someone mentioned riders costs, and the cost to the club. Killer would have probably flown in from Bacon Land, and if he had he would have had to be accommodated last night in order to travel to Lakeside tonight. Nicolai seems to be spending quite a bit of time in Poland where he can practice 7 days a week, he may have been travelling from there, again needing putting up last night. Not sure about the location of some of the Poole riders. There is a cost to the club if a meeting is called off late as they would then have the riders travel to pay for, and a lot of fans have spent money. I accept the odd unpredicted downpour can arrive, look at the elrc last year and the trouble that caused. The management are dammed if they cancel and dammed if they do not.

Agree fully with that, always listen when on, while following updates, another excellent service.

As well as saving fans travelling it also saves riders from abroad flying in, but I can understand the frustration of fans who have altered other arrangements to be there tonight.

CR and Lucifer, I can assure you that I would only post a rain off when confirmed. Just hope that fri night at Lakeside and next thur is ok for the visit of Coventry.