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  1. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    ......but poor crowds.
  2. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    I never mentioned things being better, what I was getting at was that people have got wise to what a pile of **** it really is. As for the target being over 40s, well everything I seem to read suggests that youth is the target. Things might not have been better in the old days but if you ask the majority of oldies down at the track, they say they preferred it back then but still go through habit and to catch up with friends and of course the off chance of a good race.
  3. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    At Bradford they would visit a different school every week and on race day they would transport the kids to the track, show them around the pits, explain everything and then after the first race a kid turned to me and said "is that it"? They then chose to run about the place making a total nuisance of themselves and few if any ever came back, in fact Bradford had the best team in the country, a good track and piles of silver wear but by the time it closed the place was embarrassingly empty. So imagine your idea should work, after a handful of meetings the new spectator has seen all the teams in the league and Chris Harris seemed to ride for most of them, he's been covered in dust to the extent that he couldn't see across the track and he's seen two overtakes and 88 processions. I had been a spectator from the 1950s, later a sponsor and sometimes mechanic, I introduced lots of my friends to the sport, none of them go now and I only know one who watches it on TV (and he travelled the world to big meetings, such was his initial enthusiasm). The product is now the problem, tracks that are inaccessible to anyone who relies on public transport, tracks badly prepared, bikes that are unnecessarily dangerous, same riders week after week, no matter which team it's supposed to be and a bad lack of continuity. Having said all that, I suppose anything is worth a try but I haven't seen anything new in the offing that hasn't already failed.
  4. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    The suggestion has been six man teams and the probability of a draft return or something similar. As I said, it's now in some doubt but it was considered to be a possibility. With regard to Swindon (your choice not mine), we assume that they will be running and you assume that they're just going to voluntarily up riders earnings. Your cup doesn't have to be half empty you know.
  5. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    If the level was at Championship averages then Swindon would need to adjust their line-up, if clubs couldn't afford what Swindon had previously paid Morris, they would make him a lower offer, other former Premiership clubs would also be looking to shed riders and that might reduce his options as well. You assume that AGM voting would be as you or I would vote or even be logical, history tells us otherwise. Anyway, speculation seems rather pointless just now.
  6. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    You don't actually know what riders are paid and Swindon would have to scale down, so Mr Morris and others might find their options somewhat reduced and end up somewhere on even less, either that or start shelf stacking. Times are hard and the point of any changes should be to help clubs continue to survive. Having said that, it seems that a small number of Premiership clubs are resisting the idea, so the same old will continue and the strugglers will continue to fall by the wayside as yawning spectators find other amusements.
  7. foamfence

    AGM November 2018

    Why would it? The rumoured suggestion was that teams strengths be at Championship level, surely more different opponents would be a boost for everyone.
  8. foamfence

    Panthers up for sale.

    Well as he said it broke even and might have made a small profit, which is the truth? As for 'cooking the books' yes you can. Anyway everyone should hope that a buyer comes forward, sooner the better.
  9. foamfence

    Panthers up for sale.

    I agree totally, some seem to be clouded by wishful thinking but you can't blame them for that.
  10. foamfence

    Panthers up for sale.

    He actually said that it might have made a small profit, he also said it just about broke even.
  11. foamfence

    Panthers up for sale.

    Seen the books have you?
  12. foamfence

    Panthers up for sale.

    I thought the previous owner of Peterborough said it had never made a profit.
  13. I think that the doubts about several clubs future's might play a part, if there is to be a second division it should have to be a gateway for young riders (say, two per club).
  14. It removes credibility, If you're happy with it fair enough, in regard to Swindon; I shouldn't be surprised if nobody goes there in the near future.
  15. If doubling up becomes the norm, support will continue to decline.
  16. A lot of other clubs WOULD want it, that's why it has been considered at pre-AGM meetings.
  17. That's how it used to be, I'm not saying it was better or worse but the wealthier clubs would keep changing riders and those dropped would be loaned to teams who had room for them. You did get periods of dominance by clubs such as Wembley and Belle Vue but you also had far bigger crowds and a lot of local media interest when the big names were in town. You also had better links between top league clubs and the lower leagues and second halves for those riders wanting to progress.
  18. I never mentioned guarantees, some of us can remember the days when there were no guests or R/R.
  19. It has allowed more doubling up though (I always cringe when they say on TV "he also rides for ....").
  20. Well there are some strong opinions about guests, personally I think they are an abomination, true that under your idea you might see a closer match but it would (to me) seem pretty meaningless and I'm convinced that guests have driven away more people than they've attracted.
  21. It sickens me when teams can bring guests in and then win on the strength of it.
  22. Speedway must be made affordable for fans, riders and promoters. You can't keep chasing the tail of a country that gets ten times the crowds that we do and unlimited sponsorship due to it's high profile status. Look inward and make some moves, instead of talking about it but not implementing it.
  23. foamfence

    Panthers up for sale.

    F2 but they won't give it a serious try. You can fit a 450cc motocross engine (made by all the leading manufacturers) into existing frames and some of them will accept heavier flywheels if necessary. You would have better reliability, longer service intervals and hydraulic clutches that rarely need adjusting or new plates. This country needs to go it alone and forget pandering to the poles etc.
  24. foamfence

    Worrying Times at Redcar

    They might but it's worrying because there is obviously some conflict and the previously enthusiastic promoter has decided to quit.
  25. foamfence

    Worrying Times at Redcar

    http://redcarbears.co/2018/10/08/keay-steps-down-as-promoter/
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