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  1. On 17/03/2018 at 1:55 PM, GiveusaB said:

    So does that mean any national rider that's already developed shouldn't be riding then ?

    The National League and the development league are 2 separate leagues ?

    It's about entertaining the public imo !

    It happens in ALL sports !

     

    On 17/03/2018 at 2:17 PM, ProudtobeaBrummie said:

    It's the NL not a development league people need to move with the times and not be stuck in the past to be league's here to entertain us . The reason the sport is in such a mess is because it's run by old men stuck in the past and can't move with the times the sport has just stood still .

    The points limit should be 42.5 so most teams don't have 2 useless 3 pointers who end up half a lap behind the opposition main body ...

    Paul Bowen ,Ryan McDonald ,dicken to name a few have all got a ride yet bowtell hasn't Tom Perry nearly missed out and many others of far more ability . The difference between most reserves and the main body's is huge .

    For example ryan McDonald is in he's 6th season of speedway and he's still on a 3.00 average you telling me that's best for British speedway us all having to watch him been tailed off for another year ???

    The NL's full and official name is the "National Development League"


  2. On 15/03/2018 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Smith said:

    They have tak3n note about speeding meetings up.

    The regulations are now 4mins instead of 5 from the crossing the finish line to the start of the next, inclusive of the 2mins.

    It should be a noticable difference, especially at King's Lynn anyway 

    They couldn’t hit the 5 minutes when that was in the rule book. Why will making it 4 minutes make it more likely to be hit? Meetings used to take over 2 hours, that’s about 8-9 minutes a heat. At 4 minutes between heats the rules states that meetings should be over in 72 minutes, or 1 hour and 12 minutes. Yeah right!


  3. 44 minutes ago, OdsalBoy said:

    Can't see this team doing much to be honest. Just my opinion but Auty and Garrity not as good as they once were, and unpredicatable. Manzares might be ok at home but away very suspect. Worrall the only stand out rider. There is nothing to get excited about here im afraid. Sorry, still at least you can have a real challenge with newcastle for bottom spot.

    Enjoy getting ironed this season.

    Garrity not as good as he once was? He had one slightly bad season. You’d swear he’d been crap for 3 or 4 years now!


  4. 6 hours ago, marko said:

    It’s a shame the modern trend of having only 12 rider individuals is continuing in this meeting.

    12 rider individuals suck. I'm working in London and was going to go to the meeting, specially as its in memory of a rider I was a fan of. Then I saw it was the crap 12 rider format. I'll go and find a bar and have a few drinks instead! Is it really that difficult to find 4 more riders early in the season?


  5. 3 hours ago, waytogo28 said:

    Controversial it may be but a goodly number of those who have walked away have done so for that reason - the racing is a poor standard compared to even 15 - 20 years ago ( never mind 40 years ago ). And that is not a view through my rose tinted glasses.  First away ( or out of the second bend ) and the vast majority of races are over. Newbies are not into the subtleties of speedway and are not likely to be impressed by what is now "speedway chasing". I am close to walking away for that and other reasons and will certainly pick my matches this season.

    Sorry but thats rubbish. I started paying attention properly to the sport about 20-odd years about (1997 when Newport re-opened) and the sport is as exciting now as it was then. And having sat and watched a lot of stuff on youtube, video and DVD I assure you the sport was absolutely not any more exciting 40 years ago. What the sport did have 40 years ago that it has very few of today in characters, riders who'd go up to the referees box, or strop over to the phone by the start line. They're gone mostly because the sport is no so professional. Gone are the days of being able to go in the bar and get pissed up with the Americans who everyone loved but if you want to be a half decent rider you can't get drunk in the bar and if you were seen getting drunk in the bar fans would complain its not professional.

    The standard of racing is no different now than it has been in any era, ever - well certainly any era that has been recorded.


  6. On 05/03/2018 at 10:51 AM, tyretrax said:

    Don't see any criticism of Lee Payne getting injured on a motocrosser.

    So Lee Payne, an amateur who is paid £10 a point is now expected to not ride motocross? Good luck putting demand like that on riders who are basically paying to ride.

    Until riders are employed with full benefits you can’t stop them riding motocross or sledging.


  7. But who says they won’t return at some point in the future? I first went to an ice hockey game because we had free tickets. Never considered it before that. Since then I go once or twice a year. If you’d asked the week after I fort went for free you’d say it was a failure but ask now 15 years later and I’ve been to at least two dozen games and taken others a few times too.

    You’re not going to hook in everyone as new weekly fans, most will never return, those that do return will be over time.

    That said, if the “show” you provide is crap he free entry has done more harm than good. It’s no good letting people in for free to watch crap as they’ll never ever return. Free entry to a good product and they might return one day. It’s too long ago since I last visited Workington (Carl Stonehewer was riding for them!) but have they considers their product is just crap?


  8. 2 hours ago, steve roberts said:

    ...call me an old fuddy duddy (and plenty do!) and having no understanding of what appeals to youngsters but when I went to speedway the music played was often the latest chart music or do the younger generation today no longer listen to that type of music or do the majority of staging tracks play music from the past?

    Speedway still thinks it’s 1980 on a good day. They play 80s music, if you’re lucky they forget and accidentally play something from the 90s!

    TBH, it’s not about music from any particular era. There’s rubbish stuff in the charts today and some great stuff was in the charts in the 60s. It’s about playing music that gets people excited. The current number 1, Gods Plan by Drake (and I just had to search for it on Spotify as I’d never heard it!) is more likely to send people to sleep then getting them excited.

    It amazes me how often you see a great race, the crowd going wild then the dull as ditch water announcer reads out a result with a beat time and everyone calmly fills in their programme and then they play a nice calm song to relax everyone. Jeeze. Get rid of programmes and have a score board and as soon as that great race is over blast something that keeps people excited.


  9. 13 hours ago, Blackadder said:

    A part of the Speedway Meeting Certificate states:-

    We being the TEAM CAPTAINS certify that all monies due to each member of the Team have been paid as per the Riders Agreement except as listed below.

     

    And if the captain refuses to sign the club assigns a new captain. Happened many times. 


  10. 6 minutes ago, Diamondlil said:

    If you change your broadband /telephone to BT,BT sport is free.

    Only for the first 12 months. It costs me £12.50 now for BT Sports. You can get it for £10 but who doesn't want to watch in HD these days? Apart form my parents!


  11. 4 hours ago, f-s-p said:

    For team events its passport and for individuals its license.

    so Vaculik has a Polish passport and Polish FMN license. But he also has a Slovakian passport and his FIM license is Slovakian. So he’s Slovakian for the GP but Polish for Ekstraliga. And because of his dual passport he can ride for Poland or Slovakia in SoN. Not both. I hope... :lol:

    Dual nationality, makes sense. Thanks.


  12. On 03/03/2018 at 11:20 AM, someone said:

    There was one in the 2008 SWC, but the TV graphics could not cope with displaying the half point.  So afterwards BSI decided they could not be awarded in their events,, even though they remained in the FIM rule books.

    I seriously doubt that. As someone who’s job is TV graphics it is entirely possible that the issue wasn’t thought of initially and so you’re probably right the system couldn’t cope but any half decent and contentment real time graphic provider would have a programmer on site who would have made a change during an ad break and half points would have been added. It’s a really simple change.

     

    Can someone confirm the eligibility criteria for riders/country? It’s being suggested Vaculík is eligible for Slovakia but doesn’t he have a Polish passport and ride in the Polish league as a Pole? Surely it’s passport and not license?! But then this is speedway!


  13. So we know that Louis and Nicholls rode for Ipswich meaning seasons 96,97,98,01,02,04

    We know they lost first meeting at home but then beat Lynn by 1 point in the second meeting

    Not 1995 they won their first meeting
    Can't find more indepth stats for '96 but as Louis rode 37 meetings in a 36 meeting league, he could have only missed a handful if Witches had a KOC run
    Not 1997 they won their first home meeting
    Not 1998 as Ipswich won the league
    Not 2001 as second meeting was Eastbourne
    No 2002 as they beat Lynn by 14 in meeting number 2 having lost at home the week before - Sullivan didn't guest for them this season
    Not 2004 as Lynn were in the PL.

    I still call bullrubbish, even after researching further. The reason I can't find the season you're talking about, even with your clues is because it doesn't exist!

     

    Sullivan guested for Nicholls in 2001, twice on June 18 and 19. But Lynn at home was the 3rd meeting and it was a 5 point win.


  14. 10 minutes ago, mickthemuppet said:

    oh dear another person doubting what I say is correct

    Another clue then They beat Kings Lynn by one point at home by one point in their second match but lost their third match away to Kings Lynn away by 10 points  So they have only go 2 points from their first 3 matches 

    So they had a start like that but the bookies had them at 10/11? You're a liar.


  15. 48 minutes ago, mickthemuppet said:

    where did I say it was not a year you suggested. I merely asked you for one year when this happened but you have not given me that. Obviously if you spew out loads of years you are going to get one right

    Big clue for you is they lost their opening home match in this season

    I'll type slowly so you can follow. I have listed every single season that Scott Nicholls and Chris Louis careers have overlapped (thats 1995 to 2008 inclusive), I went though every season they rode at Ipswich together (95-98, 01-02 & 04) and pointed out your claim of betting on Ipswich and that pair getting injured did not and could not have possibly happened as they have never both been injured at the same time. Other than 1998 Ipswich have only ever once been in with half a chance of winning a title in that time and that was 2004 when Ipswich made the play-offs which Louis and Nicholls rode in. There is no way any bookie would have made then 10/11 in any season other than 1998 but then no bookie that season would have made then 20/1 because even as a 13 year old I knew they were out and out favourites from the start.

    You are a liar and a bullrubbishter. I have proven it. You could prove you're not by telling us the season but you can't.


  16. Just now, Moranboys said:

    we are not saying put a ban on riders, just saying that the antics that josh get up to do beg the question of whether or not he is sane or maybe his dogs aren't barking all at the same time!

    How dangerous is sledging? Kids all over the country have been doing it all week!


  17. So to confirm, we want to ban speedway riders from doing anything that could injure them because it could effect their club? Yeah, seems fair.

    So what happens when Polish club sdemand that "their" riders don't do anything dangerous when they're not riding for them and thus put out a blanket ban on them riding speedway anywhere other than Poland?

    So what happens when NL and lower order Championship riders who have days jobs to pay the bills are told by their employers, they can't risk them doing anything dangerous while employed by them so they have to quit riding speedway? I don't see the difference. Speedway riders are humans like the rest of us and nobody stops us sledging or MXing on the weekend*.

     

    *My contract does say if I get injured doing a high risk sport I can be sacked but thats a risk I'm happy to take. And as speedway riders can be sacked on a whim without doing anything bad I doubt they'd be worried if sch a term was added to their contracts.


  18. 26 minutes ago, mickthemuppet said:

    I asked you to have another guess and you have given me 7 years. That s not a proper answer

    So just to confirm,

    • You had a bet on Ipswich to win the league, injury to Nicholls and Louis ruined that bet right?
    • I listed every season that Louis and Nicholls BOTH rode for Ipswich
    • You then claim it was a season I haven't listed

    So you must be suggesting that the year in question was one of 1994, 1999,2000,2005,2006,2007,2008 when Scott Nicholls was riding for Peterborough, Poole, Poole, Coventry, Coventry, Coventry and Eastbourne or 2003 when Chris Louis was out for the season.

    So I'll look at each of them season

    1994 - Scott was at Peterborough. Ipswich finished 6th. Both rode the vast kajority of their clubs fixtures. Scott was in a different league so I'm not sure his form or fitness was at all relevant
    1999 - Scott was at Poole. Poole finished 2nd in league to Peterborough. Ipswich finished 5th. Both rode the vast majority of meeting for their club, even if Scott was injured and missed meetings against Peterborough that gave them extra points, that would have meant less for his own team Poole. Nope, not having that
    2000 - Still at Poole. But Ipswich finished 16 points behind Eastbourne, so even if Scott was injured in every meeting vs Eastbourne Ipswich were still not going to beat them. Rode 40 meeetings.
    2005 - At Coventry. Coventry finished 2nd in the league, won the play-offs. I don't remember him being injured. Ipswich were 6th, nowhere near winning a title either. Rode 40+ meeting
    2006 - Still at Coventry. Ipswich were 8th. Even if Scott was injured in every meeting against all the team whos finished ahead of Ipswich and his rides scored 0, Ipwich still wouldn't have won the league. Again, don't rememebr any injured. He managed 40+ meeting
    2007 - Coventry were brilliant this season, I think we lost about 6 meetings. If you gave me a few hours I could probably list them. Certainly twice at Swindon, home to Swindon, twice at Peterborough and probably Lakeside. I'm sure Scott was an ever present too. Ispwich finished 9 of 10, I'm not sure his fitness effected Ipswich.
    2008 - At Eastbourne rode "only" 35 meeting and Louis rode 10. The only other time either had an injury effected season so this must be the year you mean?How did Scotts fitness effect Ipswich (and Eastbourne). Ipswich finished 4th, Eastbourne 5th. So Ipswich made the play-offs. Not sure Scott fitness/availability for Eastbourne would have made much difference/.

     

    So I still call bullrubbish. Unless you can tell us the year you bet on Ipswich to win the league and both Nicholls and Louis got injured. Because it never happened.


  19. 13 hours ago, mickthemuppet said:

    Try guessing another year then.

    1995 - 40  meeting league, both rode in 40+ meetings. Witches finished 6th
    1996 - 36  meeting league, Nicholls only rode 28 meetings that year, Louis 37. Finished 8th
    1997 - 36  meeting league, Both rode 40+ meetings. Finished 4th 
    1998 - Won the league
    2001 - 32  meeting league - both rode more than 32 meetings. Finished 4th
    2002 - 32  meeting league - Nicholls did 34 meetings, Louis did 10. Finished 7th. You've already said not this season
    2004 - 36 meeting league - Rode 39 and 44 meetings. Both rode in the play-offs

     

    So which year was it? Because I call bullrubbish on every single one of them. Only two season were effected by injury to Nicholls or Louis, 1996 and 2002. Both season Ipswich were well off the pace and not a single season has been effected by both being injured.


  20. 9 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

    Just set the SKY box or equivalent and record it, don`t check any scores and watch it "delayed live" in the evening. Sorted !!!!!!

    Why? It’s a pointless meeting. I wouldn’t cross the road to watch it. I’ll give it a miss. I just don’t get speedway  for speedways sake, certainly not pairs with it’s pointless even if it is for a World Cup.


  21. On 27/02/2018 at 5:14 PM, mickthemuppet said:

    Many years ago I had £50 on Ipswich to win the top league at 20/1 which I thought was a great bet especially later on in the season they were 11/10 favourites. Then they lost Scott Nicholls and Chris Louis within a week . End of bet

    Other than ‘97 pretty much every season that Nicholls and Louis both rode for Ipswich, the Witches were crap.

    I’m guessing you’re taking 2002 where Louis had his big accident? He was already having a poor season, and Ipswich were pretty naff. Certainly not favourites. Any other year I think you’re pushing it to blame injuries as they both rode the vast majority of meetings.

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