womble53

Also Wolverhampton went public with the dates for both legs before even informing Somerset.. Forgive me if I have it wrong, but aren't both parties supposed to agree a date before releasing the information to the public & informing Speedway GB?

That statement is a little bit ingenuous to say the least, the truth of the matter is that the Wolverhampton Promotion actually wanted to come to Somerset on the 22nd September when Somerset wanted the meeting on the 15th September but as Freddie Lindgren was in a German meeting on that date they could only have an NL guest (Therefore one guest) So who’s fault is this! Given the visits of Somerset to Wolves in the course of the season it was clear that whatever happened at Somerset, Wolverhampton would still have won on aggregate, which is what the cup is about. You only have to look at the four matches competed this season. It seems it was ok for Somerset to be told to go to Swindon with 4 guests, and an RR, but when the card is shown to another club in this league they throw there toys out, maybe they have had it all there own way far too long !! If Kings Lynn and Wolverhampton had raced their tie back in the Summer and got guests for there respective number ones then Somerset would not be running this fixture so late anyway & it would have actually been raced in on one of the 5 blank weeks we had between June and August!!

I'll take that from you R&R, as I respect your opinion, and know you speak from a position of vast speedway knowledge. In my defence, I have to say that is the way I have always interpreted that rule, and in the past when I have asked for clarification, that's how it was explained to me. You are correct in assuming that I didn't see the Riss incident, as I wasn't there, and haven't read the reports from those that were. Put that alongside the fact that I truly have never seen a rider excluded for knocking of his team mate, having seen many such incidents, where the fallen team mate was excluded, and that is where my posting came from. Unlike some on here, I have no problems with being put right, as we all have holes in our knowledge to fill, and yes I will seek the chance to speak to a referee for their take. Thank you for your reply.

Whilst not specifically written in the rules, it's generally accepted that a rider isn't excluded for causing his team mate to fall. Where two team mates come together and one falls, it is always the fallen rider who is excluded. Whilst there is no mention of this particular situation in any of the rules, those relating to exclusions state that 'The referee shall disqualify the rider, who in his/her opinion is the primary cause of the stoppage, has indulged in foul, unfair, dangerous or reckless conduct that’s jeopardised the fair chance of an opponent.' ​​The pertinent part of that rule are the final seven words (underlined above), so as the riders in this situation are team mates, the so called guilty rider, can't be excluded, and he has not jeopardised the fair chance of an opponent, therefore the primary cause of the stoppage is the fallen rider, and not the team mate who may have caused him to fall. I have never yet seen a rider excluded for knocking off his team mate, but I've seen plenty of 'fallen team mates' excluded, in fact every time.

SK, If your going to quote the website article, please quote it correctly, as it doesn't quite read as you may like it to. Something of a subtle difference, I fancy if, quoted correctly. It actually reads as follows: With the Leicester duo of Lasse Bjerre and Kyle Newman coming in as guest replacements for Heeps and Kerr respectively, the Somerset management were rocked when Bjerre informed them in the lead-up to the start of the match that he could no longer able to ride for them, leaving the Rebels short-handed to the extent that they would be forced to go into at least 3 heats with just 1 rider.

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Ooops! Think you might have to reconsider that assessment.

In my view, last week was not the best track we have seen this season, but it could in no way be described as atrocious, far, far, from it, as can be seen by IDH's photos. For the record, at the 'Rider of the Night' award after last weeks meeting, Richard Lawson described that so called atrocious track as 'MINT' !

Crashed out in his first race at Edinburgh tonight, and withdrew from the meeting

Check out the video of Heat 14 last night and take a look at Jake Allen's ride, think it blows any arguments about the track being unraceable right out of the water, if you'll excuse the pun https://youtu.be/Kr3yqru72QY

Think you might have to ask your team manager about that one, as far as I know, it was he, on the phone to the referee after Heat 8, who insisted to the referee that if it got to Heat 10, then it should go all the way. As many have already said, up to that point the track was not unraceable, and times had been relatively quick. In fact it did stop raining after Heat 10. So you had Mark Lemon after heat 8 insisting it should go to the end and the team captain one heat later throwing his toys out of the pram & ripping the phone of the wall because he felt it shouldn't. Confusing or what? Neither the weather nor the conditions seemed to bother Jake Allen, Charles Wright, Richard Lawson, Kenneth Bjerre, Max Fricke or Steve Worrall, all of whom raced hard and fast in the conditions, made passes both inside and outside, and didn't appear to hold back in anyway at all. Think that tells you everything you need to know about the matter

Means 47%chance of rain Can't use new averages until All teams have completed 4+4, until then its the original 50pts aves that apply

This is the latest hourly forecast from Accuweather http://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/blunsdon-st-andrew/sn25-2/hourly-weather-forecast/716621 You may have to do a quick page refresh when you get there

Thanks SZ, but I was actually aware of that rule, just didn't realise that Jake had been sent out on a tactical in Heat 8, as I wasn't there and not got round to reading the comments on updates

Cheers guys, wasn't aware of that, thought redandyellow's post was about two separate things and not all tactical related. Can't really see a good reason why it's not allowed,

So which heat did he ride in that he wasn't permitted to? Have checked the results and can't see any problem with his rides

Thought the priority for Ekstraliga matches was only in respect of rearranged fixtures? If I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected EDIT:Before anyone else does it, I'll correct myself. I've just re-read the original article, which I clearly misinterpreted

It's actually Re-Run who currently cover Somerset. Clean Cut just covered the SGB Premiership Pairs there, back in March

Taking things the wrong way Womble53.

It's probably the Chilli

I know I'm a fat b*#**#d, but there's no need to get personal !!

I refer you to my reply to Mr Shovlar

Dictionary definition: TOSH (tŏsh) n. Chiefly British - Foolish nonsense. (Probably blend of trash and bosh) TOSH slang chiefly Brit nonsense; rubbish ​Thesaurus Listing: Baloney, Bilgewater, Boloney, bosh, drool, Humbug, Tommyrot, Twaddle, Taradiddle, Hokum, Meaninglessness, Nonsense, Nonsensicality, Bunk - a message that seems to convey no meaning ​Think that adequately sums up your post Mr Shovlar

Rearranged fixture for the Rebels as far as I know, so priority is for existing fixture i.e. Peterborough