CookieIpswich
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I'm talking more like 2024 but that's if anything is done to get loads of young Brits into speedway
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BSPA should have a rethink not now but in the future once the sport is rebuilt and full of exciting young British talent with no doubling up and break the TV deals down like they do in football
Package A - Exclusive 16 Home fixtures Monday & Wednesdays including play offs
Package B - Premiership KO Cup Quarter, Semi Finals and Final
Package C - British Grand Prix Series
Package D - BSPA events, 4TT, Best Pairs and Riders Championship
Package E - Championship Play Offs
Package F - National League Play Offs
They should offer it to broadcasters and get what they can, if I was at BT I'd be interested in A,B and C
ITV sport may be interested in just C for example
Freesport could be interested in E and F etc and BSPA can stream in their channel anything that is not bid for and people just pay the entrance fee £10/12/15 to watch from home
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I would accept that those riders from the commonwealth should be able to double up, we will rely on our commonwealth brothers once brexit is complete
Should still allow a good pool but we desperately need more young riders coming through which is why I was so disappointed that the championship team building averages were not set at 38
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Which would require some R&D
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If a cancellation costs promoters £4k then track covers are surely a must and something must be put in place for riders to be able to race in wet conditions
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BT are struggling due to their price increases so can't see them offering anymore
Bspa should be talking to them, sky, ITV4, discovery, and developing their own stream channel
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Thought they bought themselves out of the contract so that figure could be correct
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Personally I like less matches, also believe the domestic calendar should run from April until early September
Also believe more individual meetings should be in there such as
British championship extended to a mini GP series at 5 venues rather than a one off
Riders championship and best pairs to be run over a 3 round format
4TT should have qualifying rounds then the four finalists should host a home leg
These meetings would compliment the league and cup matches well
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PPV streaming should be done in house for the BSPA events so British final, fours, riders championship
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With those numbers on PPV you would not even break even
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So if teams come to the tapes below strength the championship becomes the no.1 league in the country.... Only in speedway
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A poor deal?
So pay a GP riders £3k a meeting over 20 meetings that's £60k and get in £3k/£6k and struggle to pay the remaining amount
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Agree the £3k match fee with BT based on no official amount of GP riders
If the bspa wanted GP riders the one rider over 8 wouldn't be there, simple as that
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Not sure if anyone has said but I keep seeing people say £3k is offered to the HOSTING club and everyone is saying they'll lose out with the £10 ticket
As said before clubs will be lucky to get 1 or 2 home televised meetings during the regular season so from BT it's a maximum of £6000 revenue
But BT want GP riders so the biggest problem and for once I agree with the BSPA
Is that if you're paying a GP rider even £1000 per meeting over 20 meetings that's £20,000 and BT are looking to pay you £3/6k so where do clubs make up the deficit to ensure GP riders and £1k is generous wasn't one top rider on a guaranteed £3k per meeting which makes the numbers even worse
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BT offering 3K to televise a live meeting is taking the P. Seriously. That is 150 people through the turnstiles at normal prices and 300 at a tenner. Clubs could easily lose 300 for a bt meeting meaning they are seriously out of pocket. No wonder some are not happy. Cant say I blame the promoters to be honest. BT can offer more and should offer more.
BSPA would make a stack load more money going ppv online with a fiver a meeting to watch the feed. Plus they can still charge £17 entry.
I should imagine 10,000 a meeting would be a fairer price for gp riders and a tenner entry.
Agree and disagree here
Shouldn't pay more just because they can, bspa are responsible for adding value to get more
But £3k offer from BT demanding GP riders is ok for a one off meeting won't cover a full season and clubs will only get 2-3 live meetings max
Not sure if speedway will get more on PPV, I done a free stream once with ex UFC athletes worldwide stream reached six figures including royalty in Saudi Arabia
I know other shows who charged £6.99 and they got less than 100/150 buys
Speedway demographic is older so unlikely they'll get to grips with streaming either plus will fans go out of their way to pay money every week to watch clubs they don't support for £10?
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I had the opportunity to have a good catch up with some former colleagues yesterday after a trade event at the Oval in London they gave me the latest as far they are aware from the BT side.
Deal has been offered to BSPA which is that BT will cover all production costs and each staging club will get a £3000 meeting fee.
In return BT want minimum of 7 GP riders in the league, a minimum of 10 meetings to televise, All TV meetings apart from finals to be £10 or complimentary and full co operation of all clubs with regards to fixtures so the best meetings can be broadcast.
Now some promotors are refusing to sign the deal as they feel they are being undervalued and that they are looking for more money per meeting and want some payment towards rights.
It has to be all clubs or none that's the deal I just hope the No brigade can be convinced soon to save the deal.
Ok so i would say bspa would be mad to not sign this deal
However if BT Sport want 7 GP riders they need to understand that clubs need to pay these guys over the duration of the season and clubs will be lucky to get 2 or more televised meetings so £6k won't cover a GP riders salary for a full season
So what BT Sport are offering is damaging to the sport imo
A compromise must be met and a £3k match fee based on current team building should be agreeable with a view of BT Sport increasing involvement in the future to attract GP riders
But the BSPA need to submit a 5 years orbit plan to show how the sport can be progressed with BT involvement
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His form dipped to keep below 8
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GoSpeed are not good for the sport along with alot of other things
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And there lies the heart of the problem. Buster is either too busy, or set on everything always being done his way ( very arrogant if actually so ) and although he often asks for 'feedback'. it's paying lip service to the idea and anything that comes in is ignored.
With no mega bucks TV deal likely the PPV could add significantly to the budget of many tracks AND let speedway UK genuinely enter the 21st Century. JC says he looked at it five years ago as a back up plan - but it has seemingly been left at the back of the shed to go rusty.
I have a company who are set up ready to do PPV also
Even if they did PPV for the BSPA event meetings it would bring in revenue not everyone can make a British final or riders championship event
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I had a proposal for PPV live streaming before I left the BSPA. It was when I was worried about the sky TV deal not being renewed last time around.
5 years later and words fail me if this is not a back up option to a BT sport deal not being concluded this season.
I also proposed this to Keith last winter alongside many other ideas, I used online streaming for my MMA promotion and it was very successful and could be done on a budget
I was told yeah I'll arrange a meeting with you in a few weeks and nothing happened, I was willing to meet anytime any place but gave up after the second attempt
Also giving up on the sport as well, had an engine deal for the past few months ready for a rider but it would seem most have been brain washed by the stupidity of the BSPA and don't see a good deal
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King
Campton
Schlein
Heeps
Covatti
Mountain
Hume
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I don't think Louis and Hawkins will or can be as stupid as to not have covatti in the side 🙄🙄🙄
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Kennett is a bottle job imo goes well at Foxhall but will be frustrating to watch
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Not sure if this fits but
Schlein
Newman
Covatti
Heeps
King
Hume
Jenkins
Tho it's really harsh on Nathan
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This is the issue you might avoid clashes with fixed race nights but if as you say 5 riders ride in the top league as well it's more likely they will get injured or suffer issues riding for another team also
Bspa AGM was a waste of time
Ipswich 2018
in SGB Championship League Speedway
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Lets hope the track alterations allow for better racing, definitely need an improvement on last year.
Atmosphere on the terraces kept speedway alive last season more than the racing